can anybody tell me what caused this side-effect?

[soupking]

Okay, I was just fooling around on piano, 2-tracking, and while trying to layer effects on vox and piano (which comes out stronger via digital than from tape btw) this strange delay effect came into the signal.

i don't know where it came from, it's kind of cool but, it's freaking bizarre.

i was messing around with the mini-me because the input level was really week. I think I was actually messing with the output dial at the time accidentally which may have had something to do with the rapid delay effect, but I have no idea why. Latency?

Here's a clip, if anybody can ballpark what made this happen, that'd be nice to know. It's a cool effect to introduce something, but I'll be damned if I know what happened.

http://www.axiom-media.com/extras/wierdness.mp3

Thanks for any experience/feedback.

[Benmrx]

call me crazy, but it almost sounds like you've got one of your tracks from tape playing back off the sync head, with the other off the repro head.

[soupking]

Originally Posted by Benmrx

call me crazy, but it almost sounds like you've got one of your tracks from tape playing back off the sync head, with the other off the repro head.

That makes sense except it's not repro, it's the digital playback shifting in as I turn up the volume.

Cuz whatever I was doing with the Mini-Me caused it.

Good call.

[Kiwiburger]

It's almost certainly a feedback loop, and the delay you are hearing is the total latency of your A/D and D/A. It's quite a large latency - at a guess around 80ms - which makes me wonder if you have unusually high buffer settings, or are perhaps running some high latency plugins with PDC. You wouldn't be running USB over an old USB1 port? Whatever the reason - I suspect you have a high latency that is creating a slap delay.

I'm guessing you have created a feedback loop (the output spilling into your input) possibly via your monitoring routing. When you turned up the volume at one point, you got more delays feeding back, causing that cool stut-tering effect that just happened to be in sync with your playing ... rather Beatlish

[soupking]

Originally Posted by Kiwiburger

It's almost certainly a feedback loop, and the delay you are hearing is the total latency of you A/D and D/A. It's quite a large latency - at a guess around 80ms - which makes me wonder if you have unusually buffer settings, or are perhaps running some high latency plugins with PDC. You wouldn't be running USB over an old USB1 port? Whatever the reason - I suspect you have a high latency that is creating a slap delay.

I'm guessing you have created a feedback loop (the output spilling into your input) possibly via your monitoring routing. When you turned up the volume at one point, you got more delays feeding back, causing that cool stuttering effect that just happened to be in sync with your playing ... rather Beatlish

Yeah, that must be what it is. I don't know about the buffer settings. I'm just going straight USB to my powerbook.

Now I just wonder how I can router this scenario to use it as an effect. I guess I'd have to run the signal through my powerbook. and then just crank on the the mini-me output into an AUX or something to get the effect. I should probably just get a pedal if that's the desired effect.

Kind of neat, but it'd have to work at that tempo, er latency speed I mean.

Heh, I'm such a pro (whatever), but yeah the syncing was kind of a cool accident.