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Old 29th January 2005   #31
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This thing is suprizingly nice, but not as nice as the secret eq, (Hydratone). I did some a/b ing last night, hydratone is clearly another league (high end smoothness). But it is pretty damn good.
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I hope Tritonedigital's servers don't break down the moment Hydratone comes out - while all of us try to purchase it at once... :-)
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I hope Tritonedigital's servers don't break down the moment Hydratone comes out - while all of us try to purchase it at once... :-)
Aww shucks

We'll make sure the server is up, don't worry.

It seems the world is on fire about native convolution EQs. Im glad folks are liking ours, we build them to really suit our personal tastes, but it's nice if others dig'em.

HydraTone should be out for Mac within the week, I am just finishing the final graphics now. We will go live with 2 models to start, 2 more will be added in the next release.

We expect it will be ready for PC a shortly thereafter; we have a working version of ValveTone on the test bench on the PC right now.

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Really can't wait! :-)

Are you saying that Hydratone and Angeltone are based on convolution?


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Aww shucks

We'll make sure the server is up, don't worry.

It seems the world is on fire about native convolution EQs. Im glad folks are liking ours, we build them to really suit our personal tastes, but it's nice if others dig'em.

HydraTone should be out for Mac within the week, I am just finishing the final graphics now. We will go live with 2 models to start, 2 more will be added in the next release.

We expect it will be ready for PC a shortly thereafter; we have a working version of ValveTone on the test bench on the PC right now.

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Really can't wait! :-)

Are you saying that Hydratone and Angeltone are based on convolution?
Yes, they are. With lots of other tricks up their sleeves as well. So is ValveTone, our original classic tube EQ.

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Really can't wait! :-)

Are you saying that Hydratone and Angeltone are based on convolution?
Yes, we used a fair amount of convolution in those. But not "only". i.e. for HydraTone, it's far more than the straight line convolution. To obtain the best sound we could, we used a mixture of FIR (convolution), IIR with custom phaseshifting, etc...
And complex innovative algorythm as well : among other, the cool 'FIRE' features (kinda make "Whaaamm or "Kabooom", the specials 'EXP' filters/shelves, the phaseShift ala IBP etc...
Many cool new stuff here.

We wanted those EQ's to be the ultimate tools to cover almost any need. Note : you can choose BAND BY BAND colors : amk 98 for bass/low mid, and Alavon x37sp for Himid etc... Very useful and sound great at the end

As far sampling (I'm sure you want to know ! ), we based those on several cool EQ's ex : amk98, Alavon x37sp, Minedia melia, Alavon '55, etc and many more to come.

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Thanks for all the information, Salvator! I've been convinced for a long time that an important part of the sound of great analog EQs and preamps has to do with the influence the transformers have on the phase relations.
Sounds to me like your the one's who finally transferred this over to the plugin world... well, now I really can't wait for Hydratone (PC)! :-)

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Yes, we used a fair amount of convolution in those. But not "only". i.e. for HydraTone, it's far more than the straight line convolution. To obtain the best sound we could, we used a mixture of FIR (convolution), IIR with custom phaseshifting, etc...
And complex innovative algorythm as well : among other, the cool 'FIRE' features (kinda make "Whaaamm or "Kabooom", the specials 'EXP' filters/shelves, the phaseShift ala IBP etc...
Many cool new stuff here.

We wanted those EQ's to be the ultimate tools to cover almost any need. Note : you can choose BAND BY BAND colors : amk 98 for bass/low mid, and Alavon x37sp for Himid etc... Very useful and sound great at the end

As far sampling (I'm sure you want to know ! ), we based those on several cool EQ's ex : amk98, Alavon x37sp, Minedia melia, Alavon '55, etc and many more to come.

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BTW, are there any plans on when Squeezetone and the tape-emulation come out? :-)
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AH! I thought there was some convolution. They sound so clearly different than other plugs, there had to be something else going on. I have to confirm the band by band color thing is SUPER sweet! And the fire gives all the grit you could ever want. I can't wait for the finished versions.
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We expect it will be ready for PC a shortly thereafter
shortly like 1 year or shortly like 1 month?
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hydratone is clearly another league (high end smoothness)
Thermos,
Thanks for reporting, I just wanted to know how good was that new UAD EQ.
but I may not investigate further from now, as I'm trully confident with your monitoring and ears.

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Living sounds,

You say the word : phase !
PC version for HydraTone is in progress already, and close to the end.... but we're fairly OT now ... Maybe it's better if we continue the discution into another new topic (will post @ new product alert)


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How long before there will be a VST version of the Hydratone for PC?
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Should be quick.
We want to officially release the mac version within the week (2 weeks at worse) and, hopefully, the PC version along ...

But no promise on the date for PC version.
All I can say right now, is that we'll do our best to make it out along february.

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The reason I am asking is because I am about to purchase an eq for my daw. I really like the idea that you are using convolution in your eq design. Will there be a beta PC before the official PC version is released? I was about to purchase some of the URS eq's but maybe I can wait.
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I tried to download the valve 62 plug from tritone, but couldn't open it. then I saw where it's available in a pluggo platform only..... what the @$#% is pluggo.... and why can't I just use it as a normal vst plug like other manufacturers do ? Do I have to buy pluggo first to be able to use this plug ? If so...that sucks....
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I think thats in the faqs on the website. You don't have to buy pluggo, it should work right of the bat. Its just the format they use because it is easier to program with.
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I tried to download the valve 62 plug from tritone, but couldn't open it. then I saw where it's available in a pluggo platform only..... what the @$#% is pluggo.... and why can't I just use it as a normal vst plug like other manufacturers do ? Do I have to buy pluggo first to be able to use this plug ? If so...that sucks....
Luke,

Sorry for your troubles. Are you on a Mac or on a PC? ValveTone is only for the Mac right now, and the demo is a simple .sit "Stuffit" file.

As Thermos said, we use the Max/MSP programming platform to develop all of our plugs. It allows us to tweak our code and algorithms and hear the results in real time, allowing for our coding to be a lot more efficient and tied to what sounds good. Also, Max/MSP allows us to host our code inside of the Pluggo framework, a free "host" that provides us with instant compatibility for VST, AU and RTAS without a separate coding effort, which allows us more time to develop cool plugs and less time coding for all the plugin formats.

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I think thats in the faqs on the website. You don't have to buy pluggo, it should work right of the bat. Its just the format they use because it is easier to program with.
OK.. thanks thermos...I'll go check out the faqs, I figured it couldn't be that you had to use this pluggo thing like a dx wrapper for the plugs to work...... I downloaded a demo , but it had a weird extension (SIT) and i could't open it up.. what the heck is a sit ?
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SIT files are Stuff-it compressed files for Mac.
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Proper Forum Etiquette

Tritone People - Salavator, Damon, Thermos, Brianbrian

How come everytime a new thread about a software EQ is created, it quickly turns into the TriTone thread.

If TriTone has a new product - start your own thread.

When a new product is announced in "New product alert! " - Gearslutz readers want to know about that product. Touting your own products is great in your own thread. In other product's threads it is cheap advertising and hype.

I want to hear from users that are using the new UAD Precision EQ for the UAD-1 card in this thread not about alternatives that do not even support the UAD-1 card. It's a drag to sift through four pages of TriTone dribble, no matter how great your EQ might be.

The "Software tools & computers" category is the place to discuss comparisons.

Create a new thread under "Software tools & computers" that compares your Hydratone against each of the other EQ's is you so desire.

Now where are all the UAD-1 users !!!
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Re: Proper Forum Etiquette

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Tritone People - Salavator, Damon, Thermos, Brianbrian

How come everytime a new thread about a software EQ is created, it quickly turns into the TriTone thread.

If TriTone has a new product - start your own thread.

When a new product is announced in "New product alert! " - Gearslutz readers want to know about that product. Touting your own products is great in your own thread. In other product's threads it is cheap advertising and hype.

I want to hear from users that are using the new UAD Precision EQ for the UAD-1 card in this thread not about alternatives that do not even support the UAD-1 card. It's a drag to sift through four pages of TriTone dribble, no matter how great your EQ might be.

The "Software tools & computers" category is the place to discuss comparisons.

Create a new thread under "Software tools & computers" that compares your Hydratone against each of the other EQ's is you so desire.

Now where are all the UAD-1 users !!!
Sheesh. Pretty bold for a post for a first time poster aren't you

I simply responded to other people's posts about our plugs, I haven't initiated a single thread or inserted myself into any discussion that had already mentioned our stuff. If our user's are excited and want to post their thoughts about our plugs, that's their choice.

Actually, we will create a thread here shortly, so folks, let's not piss my UADlova off anymore, and post your thoughts or questions over there.

Happy buddy?

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UADlova,

I hear your point, and I'm sorry if you or other people have been hurted. As Damon said we're quite exited on the new eq's, thus I'm not surprised they entrance that kind of discussion (you know when talking plugin eq's, you'll almost always hear people doing comparison...).

Anyway, you've very kindly explained your point, and I'll make sure to create another thread shortly, to avoid any further hurting.

Thanks,

btw: We are only 2 people forming TriTone Digital (Damon & I). While Thermos and Brianbrian are enthousiast beta testers...

Have a nice day,

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Makes sense. I'm a Uad user, thus I thought the comparison was ok. Plus, I don't care about the format, just if it sounds good. I think its viable to make comparisons as such because all of these products are roughly the same amount of money, but with drastically different results. Thats what kicks a!$ about the internet! If it were me (and it is!) I would say the uad eq is great, but .........you know the rest.
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But would it be fair to say the hydratone is meant to be a bit more euphonic while the uad is meant to be transparent? I'm not sure if this is a totally fair comparison. Probably both great products, both different.
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But would it be fair to say the hydratone is meant to be a bit more euphonic while the uad is meant to be transparent?
No - the UAD stuff is not transparent, it's colored and has a sound to it, in a good way. The exceptions are their limiter, and IMO the Cambridge and PEQ are a tad colored, but mostly transparent.

I haven't heard hydratone yet, but I am just about to try out the beta valvetone for the pc. I assume it will be colored too, but I suppose I better listen to it before I pass judgment . . .
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I haven't heard hydratone yet, but I am just about to try out the beta valvetone for the pc. I assume it will be colored too, but I suppose I better listen to it before I pass judgment . . . [/B]
HydraTone is all about color! I would have assumed that the UAD Precision EQ was more about the lack of color - but I have yet to hear that one....
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No - the UAD stuff is not transparent, it's colored and has a sound to it, in a good way. The exceptions are their limiter, and IMO the Cambridge and PEQ are a tad colored, but mostly transparent.

I haven't heard hydratone yet, but I am just about to try out the beta valvetone for the pc. I assume it will be colored too, but I suppose I better listen to it before I pass judgment . . .
Wasn't this thread about the precision eq?
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