3rd June 2012
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#5251 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Rome, Italy
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Originally Posted by TrueTone Studios Ha, I'm assuming he is referring to the fourth fret, still not all to specific though! I work with so many people who don't know what key their songs are in! It's crazy! | I get that all the time when I'm tuning vocals...Blank stare from the client, so I get up, walk to the live room, open the piano, walk back and resume working without saying a word. How the hell can they not know?
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3rd June 2012
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#5252 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Rome, Italy
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Regarding the whole "getting levels" issue, if they play something really soft, I just ask "Is this what you are gonna be playing? You are not going FFF on me mid take, right"
If they confirm, I just make my level and get on with it.
I don't really get what all the fuss is about?
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4th June 2012
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#5253 | | Moderator
Joined: Jan 2004 Location: New Zealand/Switzerland/guitar case
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Originally Posted by pdx Yeah, some of these anecdotes are funny but I bet every musician's forum has a "stupidest thing a recording engineer ever told you" thread. | Ha, that reminds me, not that its a recording engineer:
Setting up for a Matchbox 20 gig, and one of the local "crew" walks over to the monitor desk and starts turning knobs randomly, just to see what they feel like by the looks. This was after the band had sound checked, so I asked him if he knew were they were all set before he started twiddling. He said "um.. no" and walked off.
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4th June 2012
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#5254 | | u don't wanna know
Joined: Apr 2003 Location: switzerland
Posts: 4,300
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Originally Posted by pdx Yeah, some of these anecdotes are funny but I bet every musician's forum has a "stupidest thing a recording engineer ever told you" thread. | You won't need to search far far away Dumb stuff you do in the studio Dumbest Things Smart Folks Do Only ONCE!
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4th June 2012
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#5255 | | Moderator
Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney via London
Posts: 18,880
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Originally Posted by RDFiorentino My favorite one that I get all the time is "process it. like make it sound really processed." | Quote:
Originally Posted by PRobb Wouldn't it be great if clients understood the recording process as well as you did?
Oh, wait, if they did why would they pay you? | Well, as I think I've said before, it would be nice to be given a bit of a clue as to what they'd like to hear!
"make it watery"
"Make it really nasty sounding"
"make it all floaty and airy"
"make it robotic"
All these things I can do.
"put an effect on it" - well, that could be any one of the above, and a million other things as well. If I'm on the clock, I'll try any number of things if the client has the patience. If I'm mixing on a flat rate, I'd like a bit more detail please before I waste my time on something that isn't needed!
That's where reference tracks/youtube etc are so useful.
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4th June 2012
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#5256 | | u don't wanna know
Joined: Apr 2003 Location: switzerland
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I'd like to add: "Make it deeper"
After playing one octave lower / or just pitch shifting: "No that's not it"
Then hi cutting everything above 500 - 1k: "No that's not it, just make it deeper, you know!"
NO I DON'T KNOW!!!
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4th June 2012
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#5257 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2002 Location: +-4 GMT
Posts: 186
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Originally Posted by pdx Yeah, some of these anecdotes are funny but I bet every musician's forum has a "stupidest thing a recording engineer ever told you" thread. | Personally, I'd love to read such threads. So if you know any, please share!
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5th June 2012
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#5258 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2010 Location: North Carolina
Posts: 638
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Originally Posted by deft_bonz I'd like to add: "Make it deeper"
After playing one octave lower / or just pitch shifting: "No that's not it"
Then hi cutting everything above 500 - 1k: "No that's not it, just make it deeper, you know!"
NO I DON'T KNOW!!! | This is probably what they meant. |
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5th June 2012
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#5259 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2010 Location: North Carolina
Posts: 638
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Originally Posted by kidxsicarus Had the biggest Divo singer come into my project studio |
You had Mark Motherbaugh in your Studio? Nice!
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5th June 2012
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#5260 | | u don't wanna know
Joined: Apr 2003 Location: switzerland
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5th June 2012
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#5261 | | Gear addict
Joined: May 2004 Location: London
Posts: 415
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Perhaps not as funny as suprising, we used to have toilet facilities just off the control room to the left of the monitoring. I had a new girl client, very attractive just a girl next door type, who had never worked with me before. Since it was just us together I was taken by surprise when mid discussion about arrangement she wandered into the cubicle and went for a tinkle with the door wide open, carried on chatting, wiped herself and rejoined the control room without us ever losing eye contact.
I guess I do put people at ease...
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5th June 2012
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#5262 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Birmingham/UK
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(guy booking the studio for production tuition)now I've seen you using the black keys ...do I have use them ???
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5th June 2012
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#5263 | | Richard Gear
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,841
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Originally Posted by GRiFF Perhaps not as funny as suprising, we used to have toilet facilities just off the control room to the left of the monitoring. I had a new girl client, very attractive just a girl next door type, who had never worked with me before. Since it was just us together I was taken by surprise when mid discussion about arrangement she wandered into the cubicle and went for a tinkle with the door wide open, carried on chatting, wiped herself and rejoined the control room without us ever losing eye contact.
I guess I do put people at ease... | Lucky for you she didn't need a poo.
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5th June 2012
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#5264 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 99
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Originally Posted by gussyg2007 (guy booking the studio for production tuition)now I've seen you using the black keys ...do I have use them ??? | Really ... I hate the world
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5th June 2012
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#5265 | | Gear interested
Joined: Mar 2012 Location: Kingston
Posts: 20
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Can you just Pro tools that?
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5th June 2012
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#5266 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2008 Location: newcastle upon tyne |
Aah the pro tools as a verb line !!!! And not meaning Dverb ;+)
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5th June 2012
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#5267 | | Moderator
Joined: May 2007 Location: UK
Posts: 11,569
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Originally Posted by GRiFF Perhaps not as funny as suprising, we used to have toilet facilities just off the control room to the left of the monitoring. I had a new girl client, very attractive just a girl next door type, who had never worked with me before. Since it was just us together I was taken by surprise when mid discussion about arrangement she wandered into the cubicle and went for a tinkle with the door wide open, carried on chatting, wiped herself and rejoined the control room without us ever losing eye contact.
I guess I do put people at ease... | Not sharp on the uptake? Heh
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6th June 2012
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#5268 | | Gear interested
Joined: May 2005 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire, England (UK)
Posts: 11
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Originally Posted by Papanate This is probably what they meant.
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Actually I took 'deeper' to mean more spirituality or meaning, e.g. in that hippy 'heavy man!' way that Neil from the Young Ones comedy used to always say. If this was the case, the engineer would have been stumped! Some requests are just beyond what an engineer can do; their powers of magic have to end somewhere! |
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6th June 2012
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#5269 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jun 2011 Location: Central NH
Posts: 41
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Haven't posted here much but have been coming here for a long time. I have a million of them just on one of the music teachers where I work. Believe me when I tell you he is this ridiculous, so don't think I'm picking on him.
This is a live sound story, but I have recording ones too. He once insisted I give him a wireless lapel mic for announcements during a high school concert, rather than use an SM58 that we've used since the beginning of time. He also wanted to be able to talk to us up in the booth just in case he needs to "tell us how to tweak the sound". I was reluctant because of feedback problems, etc. etc but sometimes you just have to let things happen so people will learn, I told him to just remember to turn it off if you leave the stage, just to be safe. I'll skip some of the other "magic" he did and tell you few minutes later my intern and I were sitting there in the sound booth and heard the sound of running water coming over the CR monitor speakers.....it was him in the bathroom. Yup, he was peeing, humming away having a blast. My intern looks at me in complete horror but I remembered I muted him from the house (Actually PFL'd to the CR monitors) because I had a feeling he would do something dumb, but this surpised even me. He comes into the booth and I told him he should have listened to me and don't ever do that again, yada yada. He just chuckled and said oops. Not a clue. He then asks to do a sound check....that's a whole other talk show.
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6th June 2012
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#5270 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 91
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"That sounds Pro Tooled."
I got really tired of hearing that one by the same person.
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6th June 2012
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#5271 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 2,698
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Originally Posted by Sentinel "That sounds Pro Tooled."
I got really tired of hearing that one by the same person. | time to start using Cubase instead just to stump this person
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6th June 2012
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#5272 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jun 2002 Location: New York
Posts: 12,775
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Originally Posted by monkeyxx time to start using Cubase instead just to stump this person | "that sounds Cubased"
"can't you just Ableton it?"
"this track has been Digital Performered to death"
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#5273 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 2,698
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Originally Posted by joeq "that sounds Cubased"
"can't you just Ableton it?"
"this track has been Digital Performered to death" | haha
part of me thinks the dum-dum stars of this thread only know about Pro Tools and would be confused by any other DAW software being used
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7th June 2012
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#5274 | | Gear interested
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13
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Originally Posted by GRiFF Perhaps not as funny as suprising, we used to have toilet facilities just off the control room to the left of the monitoring. I had a new girl client, very attractive just a girl next door type, who had never worked with me before. Since it was just us together I was taken by surprise when mid discussion about arrangement she wandered into the cubicle and went for a tinkle with the door wide open, carried on chatting, wiped herself and rejoined the control room without us ever losing eye contact.
I guess I do put people at ease... | She washed her hands, right? Right? |
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7th June 2012
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#5275 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2006 Location: NYC
Posts: 985
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Originally Posted by Talljoe She washed her hands, right? Right? | LOL! |
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7th June 2012
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#5276 | | Moderator
Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney via London
Posts: 18,880
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Originally Posted by jake not Haven't posted here much but have been coming here for a long time. I have a million of them just on one of the music teachers where I work. Believe me when I tell you he is this ridiculous, so don't think I'm picking on him.
This is a live sound story, but I have recording ones too. He once insisted I give him a wireless lapel mic for announcements during a high school concert, rather than use an SM58 that we've used since the beginning of time. He also wanted to be able to talk to us up in the booth just in case he needs to "tell us how to tweak the sound". I was reluctant because of feedback problems, etc. etc but sometimes you just have to let things happen so people will learn, I told him to just remember to turn it off if you leave the stage, just to be safe. I'll skip some of the other "magic" he did and tell you few minutes later my intern and I were sitting there in the sound booth and heard the sound of running water coming over the CR monitor speakers.....it was him in the bathroom. Yup, he was peeing, humming away having a blast. My intern looks at me in complete horror but I remembered I muted him from the house (Actually PFL'd to the CR monitors) because I had a feeling he would do something dumb, but this surpised even me. He comes into the booth and I told him he should have listened to me and don't ever do that again, yada yada. He just chuckled and said oops. Not a clue. He then asks to do a sound check....that's a whole other talk show. | Reminds me of a friend's anecdote - again doing foh for musical theatre, pfl-ing mics per show, he hears "that bloke on the sound desk's a right twat" from one of the actors, mid conversation to a friend.
He sends a message backstage "the bloke on the sound desk says he's not"...and listens to the penny drop on pfl...
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18th June 2012
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#5277 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: None
Posts: 39
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I was doing FOH at a club and a band didn't show up for soundcheck...typical. So behind the curtain I ask the singer what he wants in his monitor, he gives me a blank stare and says "What?".
Me: What do you want to hear in the speakers in front of you.
Him: Uh, what do you mean.
Me: You want some bass to track pitch better, guitars, your voice...
Him: A little of everything.
Me: O........kay. Well do you want to hear your vocals more? You probably do, nevermind, I'll do that.
Him: Just some good His Mids and Lows.
Me:I'm sorry, what was that, your guitar player was wanking...say that again.
Him: You know, just some good hi mid and lows.
Me: Uh, I can do that, sure.
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19th June 2012
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#5278 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Asheville, NC
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OH MAN!!!!!! somebody finally dropped the all time classic stinker "good highs mids and lows"!!!
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19th June 2012
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#5279 | | Gear interested
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13
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Originally Posted by Student I was doing FOH at a club and a band didn't show up for soundcheck...typical. So behind the curtain I ask the singer what he wants in his monitor, he gives me a blank stare and says "What?".
Me: What do you want to hear in the speakers in front of you.
Him: Uh, what do you mean.
Me: You want some bass to track pitch better, guitars, your voice...
Him: A little of everything.
Me: O........kay. Well do you want to hear your vocals more? You probably do, nevermind, I'll do that.
Him: Just some good His Mids and Lows.
Me:I'm sorry, what was that, your guitar player was wanking...say that again.
Him: You know, just some good hi mid and lows.
Me: Uh, I can do that, sure. | At a live, variety-show charity gig, a guy with a weird acoustic instrument walks around the audience playing it while I mic him on a a wireless lavalier. After the show he says, "If I known how alive this theatre was I wouldn't have had you mic me."
He should have come to &$*@ tech rehearsal, then.
Not a stupidest thing, but at this same show (I might have told this story before) an acoustic-electric guitar player plays his song in the first act without plugging in. I had no microphone on his instrument. During intermission I tell him, "Don't worry about, simple nervous mistake. For the second act I'll have a stagehand hand you the mic cord." Said stagehand hands said cord to said guitarist who plugs in but forgets to turn up his preamp. At least he came to tech rehearsal.
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19th June 2012
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#5280 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Black Hills of South Dakota
Posts: 135
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Originally Posted by mrtuesday Pretty much EXACTLY the same thing with me. Adele song - "la la la, oh f$&k s(;:t a@$". Didn't think of making a swear mix but think I will now! | Have either of you considered selling the cuss mix on iTunes?
I'd buy it.
Might do better than the other one.
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