Programming a plugin

[rayne]

Hi, does anyone know of any resources i could use to write a tdm, rtas, etc plugin? Any books or websites? Thanks for the help!

[rayne]

come on, there has to be someone here that knows...

[KingDiamond]

As far as VST programming goes, you want to have a background in C-language or Java programming as well as learn about DSP software programming. You will need the proper compilers and SDK's. You can find a bunch of info here: http://ygrabit.steinberg.de/

[Tibbon]

If you don't have a strong background in DSP and programming, then I'd say forget about it. However, I don't know you; maybe you do.

Contact Digidesign for the SDK and documentation, or you'll likely never get a TDM program written. Keep in mind that a TDM based plugin will be different to write than an RTAS, simply due to how TDM works.

[ninjaneer]

not sure if you are pc or mac...

this is from the apple website:

Turning Up the Volume with Audio Units

[Mr.HOLMES]

Originally Posted by Tibbon

If you don't have a strong background in DSP and programming, then I'd say forget about it. However, I don't know you; maybe you do.

Contact Digidesign for the SDK and documentation, or you'll likely never get a TDM program written. Keep in mind that a TDM based plugin will be different to write than an RTAS, simply due to how TDM works.

With this arrogant attitude he will never learn how to program a plug in.
He will never get a background because he only can start with a strong background?

I think some people here do not think about what they write?
If someone wants to start learning it there must be a point of how he or she can do this.

He never state about writing a TDM Plug In WOW.

Some people know how to motivate and take care for fresh blood in their business....

How is this sentence:
You will never learn playing guitar without a strong background in playing guitar

[Tibbon]

Originally Posted by Mr.HOLMES

With this arrogant attitude he will never learn how to program a plug in.
He will never get a background because he only can start with a strong background?

I think some people here do not think about what they write?
If someone wants to start learning it there must be a point of how he or she can do this.

He never state about writing a TDM Plug In WOW.

Some people know how to motivate and take care for fresh blood in their business....

How is this sentence:
You will never learn playing guitar without a strong background in playing guitar

I'm not trying to dissuade him, but to a degree its like me asking how to design an SSL, if I don't even know a resistor from a transistor (which I do, but still couldn't build a console).

All I'm saying is that if you really don't know much about programming (ok a lot) then you aren't going to get a TDM plugin made. First of all, I don't think Digidesign will give out the SDK to just anyone. I could be wrong on that, but I believe they license it out sparingly. Take that one up with Digi, not me.

If he said, "I have a masters in CS with a background in DSP programming, I'm wondering if anyone has any background as to how I might get the SDK for writing TDM/RTAS plugins" then I'd have given him a far different answer. This isn't something he's going to pick up just messing around on weekends. Even writing a VST could be far easier, but once you start writing optimized code for hardware at a fairly low (often assembler) level then its going to get hairy. This isn't stuff they teach much in school anymore! Hell, its hard to find a class that's even taught in C, let alone classes that deal with low level memory optimization and assembler these days. Everything is object oriented and/or really high level.

Either way, its not anything that someone could teach or give any solid advice about on a forum like this. Just making sure he knows that its nothing simple. Far often I see people think, "Oh, this doesn't seem hard, I'll just ask someone how to do it", which is rarely the case.

I did write, "However, I don't know you; maybe you do." I'm not saying that he doesn't have the background knowledge, or insulting his inteligence. I'm just saying that its no small task.

If you get some reading skills, you'd see he clearly asks about TDM plugins, "resources i could use to write a tdm, rtas, etc plugin"

Try harder to flame next time please? I'm not trying to hold him back, but this isn't the subject that you'll go to Barnes and Nobel, or find a website on and magically be able to do it, k?

If he wants to really do it and has a CS background, I'd recommend an internship with Digidesign or a plugin vendor like Waves for him to cut his teeth and find best practices.

[colinmiller]

Originally Posted by rayne

Hi, does anyone know of any resources i could use to write a tdm, rtas, etc plugin? Any books or websites? Thanks for the help!

You have to buy the developer kit from Digidesign. You can't simply write the plugins without paying for the SDK. And the reason for having to pay is so that there isn't a flood of homemade poorly written plugins that end up crashing PT and making the program look bad. It's kind of their way of weeding out the serious people form the hobbyist.

If you wanna learn how to make an AU plugin, then you can download the Apple developer kit for free AND it will give you step by step tutrials on how to make an AU plugin. And it has many AU plugins with source code that you can look at to see how they were made. You can even make an AU plugin from their tutorial without knowing how to program. Of course if you want to make one of your own then you're gonna need to know objective C.

[u b k]

i can tell you one thing from experience: tdm don't come cheap.


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