Originally posted by dhughes
Hey, I don't want to get in the way of the big dogs here but I have a simple (probably stupid) question that I want to ask. And rather than start a new thread, maybe someone will speak to it here.
Does anyone ever block off the back side of a figure 8 to turn it into a sort of hypercardioid-like mic? As most all the recording I do is with live bands, and typically the 121 is on a guitar amp, I end up picking up a lot kick and bass in the guitar track. My thought is to block off the back side of the 121.
As always, I know - "do it and find out" but I can't do it for a couple of days and maybe someone will speak to this and save me some time.
It's so wild that you said that. I actually have a small project studio at home that I mainly use to do some editing/mixing, etc. I also do a few overdubs there, and I have really been wanting to start doing more of my guitar overdub sessions there. So, I have this great little closet that fit's a combo amp, or a 2 x 12 cabinet quite nicely... but it's not quite big enough for a 4 x 12. I completely treated the inside to try to eliminate the "box" sound.
Well, that helped... but with the R121
.... I still picked up this UGLY boxy sound from the backside of the mic. So, I just got a square piece of auralux I had left over, and punched two tiny holes in it with an icepick. I ran a twist tie through it, and then used that to attach the foam to the mic stand DIRECTLY behind the R121
. VOILA! Man, did that ever do the trick! Even sounds great when you flip the R121
around and use the back side for the slighly brighter response! You get all the TRUE sound of the R121
with what sounds more like the pattern you get with the other guitar standard micss (57, 421
, etc). I ended up cutting some tracks with that setup (Fender Bassman Head>Mesa 2 x 12 cabinet>R121>LTD-1>Converters). I had the R121
quite close to the speaker, so I definitely had to roll off some low end, but other than that... it sounded really good amazing straight through with no extra EQ. I then also put up a 421
(Bassman Head>Mesa 2 x 12 Cabinet>421>RNP>Speck ASC-T>Converters). I put the 421
at the exact same distance from the cone as the R121, and then angled it off axis midway between the cone, and the outside of the speaker. Blending them provided an incredible sound with no phase issues. I then I mixed them together through my distressor
at 2:1, DIST 2, Attack at 5 or so, Release at 4-7, and hitting about 2-4db of reduction. I think I may have found the "end all, be all" in your FACE sound. What I got from that little experiment was absolutely SUPERB. It left me wanting a TG-2 to use instead of the RNP.... but that's coming soon.
Even so... these were some of the best guitar tones I have ever gotten. This was for an alternative rock sound. Some pushed clean, and some with the amp on 10 through a hot plate with a tube screamer up front for a thick saturated, but still focused tone. I used my American Strat Plus Deluxe with a Humbucker in the bridge postion, a Paul Reed Smith Tremonti SE, and Les Paul
Classic. Hooking my Bogner XTC 101b, up to that cab sounded Amazing as well.
It was all very in your face, with no HINT at all of the fact that it was all in a very small little closet.
I am quite happy. Tonight, I am gonna see what I can get with the 65 Super Reverb
in the same closet.