Since the Daniel Lanois threads are "read only" i have a question...

Jetblack · 17th July 2008

so i just watched the new daniel lanois dvd "here is what is". i really like the way the songs sound. we see the band playing live, all in one room (a daniel lanois trademark).

my question is this: is what we actually see what we actually hear on the dvd, and is that the final album track?

i just want to know if he really does work with all that bleed that can occur when you have a drum kit, a singer and an acoustic guitar in such close proximity with minimal baffling. hats off if that is indeed the case and that is the final sound that we "see".

anyone have any insight? thanks.

Santiago · 18th July 2008

Yes, AFAIK the versions on the DVD are the final versions (sometimes they even include overdubs that were done later, for example, on here is what is, the echo-y guitar overdub was recorded later,, you can see that in the DVD extras).

He uses pickups on his acoustic guitars as well as recording the acoustic sounds, so I bet on some songs we're hearing the pickup rather than the acoustic sound.

On the album, the most noticeable microphone bleed is on "not fighting anymore", where you hear Brian Blade's snare come in through the vocal mike almost more strongly than the vocal itself!. Apparently that was a guide vocal from an early take (the one on the filmed version) that they finally decided to go with.
It's almost used as a sonic feature of the song!

In an interview he has mentioned that he is not per se against bleed and that when recording Wrecking Ball, Emmylou's microphone (a sony c-37) caught spill from other microphones in a great way that reminded him of old Crystals records produced by Phil Spector.

Hope this helps, maybe other people can add other angles to it

Santiago

bcgood · 18th July 2008

AFAIK

As Far As I Know

Santiago · 18th July 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcgood

AFAIK

As Far As I Know

That's right yes, one gets used to writing in abreviations.

Santiago

bcgood · 18th July 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santiago

That's right yes, one gets used to writing in abreviations.

Santiago

At first I was confused that you where referring to Jetblack as AFAIK. Thought others might be slightly confused as well. Perhaps it's only me who's dazed and confused though.

Carry on!

Santiago · 19th July 2008

No problem, it's not a very obvious abreviation and it took me a bit of time to work it out myself when I first heard it!

Santiago

17th July 2008	#1
Jetblack Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 585 Thread Starter	Since the Daniel Lanois threads are "read only" i have a question... so i just watched the new daniel lanois dvd "here is what is". i really like the way the songs sound. we see the band playing live, all in one room (a daniel lanois trademark). my question is this: is what we actually see what we actually hear on the dvd, and is that the final album track? i just want to know if he really does work with all that bleed that can occur when you have a drum kit, a singer and an acoustic guitar in such close proximity with minimal baffling. hats off if that is indeed the case and that is the final sound that we "see". anyone have any insight? thanks.

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18th July 2008	#2
Santiago Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 516	Yes, AFAIK the versions on the DVD are the final versions (sometimes they even include overdubs that were done later, for example, on here is what is, the echo-y guitar overdub was recorded later,, you can see that in the DVD extras). He uses pickups on his acoustic guitars as well as recording the acoustic sounds, so I bet on some songs we're hearing the pickup rather than the acoustic sound. On the album, the most noticeable microphone bleed is on "not fighting anymore", where you hear Brian Blade's snare come in through the vocal mike almost more strongly than the vocal itself!. Apparently that was a guide vocal from an early take (the one on the filmed version) that they finally decided to go with. It's almost used as a sonic feature of the song! In an interview he has mentioned that he is not per se against bleed and that when recording Wrecking Ball, Emmylou's microphone (a sony c-37) caught spill from other microphones in a great way that reminded him of old Crystals records produced by Phil Spector. Hope this helps, maybe other people can add other angles to it Santiago

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Santiago Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 516	No problem, it's not a very obvious abreviation and it took me a bit of time to work it out myself when I first heard it! Santiago