Good replacement for Lexicon 224?

[jarbar]

So our Lexi 224 is dead (again) and it seems that it can't be repaired.
(it is a 224, not the XL).

What are some of the options for getting a reverb with a similar character? I've never used a 480L, and though I'm sure it's great, I hear it's really not much like the 224.

Also, is there an easy way to get a copy of a 224 manual? (just in case....)

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[jarbar]

Anyone? I'm not looking for "a 224 clone for $500", so any budget is fine.
It was used a lot on guitars but it found its way onto many tracks.

Again, any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks

[Rick Sutton]

Jarbar,
I wish I could help you but I can't think of anything that I've found that sounds close enough to a 224 to substitute for it. Not saying it's not out there but I haven't run a cross it yet.
I have had a 224 since day one and have had many other units since but the old 224 still gets used for some projects. I recently spent some time programing my 960L to sound as close as possible to my 224 in the event that the 224 finally gives up for good. Got fairly close but still a ways to go and probably will never be a direct replacement.
I have also owned (or still own) PCM 80, LXP15, Lex 200 (the 4 rack unit one), several Yamaha and Roland units including R880, TC5000, TC 2000 and probably 10 or more others and none sound anything like the 224. There's just something about the 224 that hasn't been duplicated.

[theother]

Originally Posted by jarbar

Anyone? I'm not looking for "a 224 clone for $500", so any budget is fine.
It was used a lot on guitars but it found its way onto many tracks.

Again, any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks

Good luck. I would be happily paying $5,000 for a 224 clone. It´s one of the best reverbs ever built!

The fact is nothing ever will sound like a 224. And 224´s are on their last leg. They are very difficult to keep going. That´s why I don´t have one.

[Teo Macero]

or...
make IRs (I guess you can't anymore though...) and use them in Altiverb.

[Mr.HOLMES]

Originally Posted by Teo Macero

or...
make IRs (I guess you can't anymore though...) and use them in Altiverb.

LOL this will be a fair replacement for a real unit????

[Teo Macero]

Originally Posted by Mr.HOLMES

LOL this will be a fair replacement for a real unit????

If you do it well, it can work.
I've seen people who swore by Lexicon/EMT verbs do a 180 flip when they heard the things Altiverb does (and can do).
It was just a suggestion since his unit keeps crapping out. And you can definitely get the depth if you work the parameters right and make various IRs to work with.

[Jim Williams]

They can be repaired. Only the custom National CPU is un-obtainium, but I have a spare. Most of them suffer from corrosion problems or dried out psu caps. For a replacement, I replaced my 224XL with the Bricasti M7, a very good decision. My 200 still has that 224 quality and chorus/reverb.

Jim Williams
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[jarbar]

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

They can be repaired. Only the custom National CPU is un-obtainium, but I have a spare. Most of them suffer from corrosion problems or dried out psu caps. For a replacement, I replaced my 224XL with the Bricasti M7, a very good decision. My 200 still has that 224 quality and chorus/reverb.

Jim Williams
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Interesting. I've heard the 224XL is quite dissimilar to the 224. Is this true or is it just engineers getting REALLY picky?

Also, do you happen to know who can fix these? We had ours at Sonic Circus and they couldn't find anyone to help us. Some fellow in or around Boston fixed it 5 or 6 years ago but he seems to be not available.
We're in Canada, but it seems the US may be the only option if at all.

Thanks for the replies all!