Drum Mic Kits

Originally posted by GRiFF
Hey Chaps,


Care to comment on these mics and if they are worth buying? A friend of mine is selling this little clutch for what seems a very cheap price.

4 x AKG C1000s

havent heard the others, but i would stay away from the c1000s. im sure there is plenty better for the same or a little more.

[GRiFF]

Originally posted by Telecastr
Here's what you should do. Get a good DI box like a Radial JDI ($190). Have the Guitar player plug in directly into the DI box, then go into the guitar modeller into another DI (the 2nd one can be crappy if you don't have 2 good ones). Record 2 different tracks - one of the first DI (pre-guitar modeller), and then the other DI (post guitar modeller). The track that is post guitar modeller is your scratch guitar track that you throw out eventually. The first track, the pre guitar modeller track, will be the track you use to reamp through the Little Labs, or whatever you choose to reamp with. This way you've got the guitar performance that was captured with the drum take, but you can run it through whatever amp and pedal combo you want without having the guitar player replaying the part. This is only gonna work if the guitar players take was a keeper obviously. The advantage to doing this, is that if he did get a good take, you've still got the live performance. The whole idea is to try to keep the song as much of a live performance as possible. Reamping the guitar afterwards, will also solve any possible guitar amp bleed that you may encounter. Another reason to do this is so that you've got total control over the guitar's tone. If you reamp the track with the guitar player there and his tone sucks, you can reamp later and make it sound good if you've got some amps of your own. All of this could apply to tracking the bass too. you're still going to have overdubs on guitar for sure, but if you can have at least the main rhythm track captured with the drum and bass take it will go a long way as far as the energy of the song goes. The way this differs from just using an amp modeller is so that all the guitars don't end up being overdubs by default. a lot of guitar players don't get as tweaky with their guitar tones during basic tracks because "hey it's just a scratch". if you do the reamp AND modeller thing for basics, you don't spend much time getting a tone either because it doesn't matter...you've got the performance going direct. tweak away later, get the performance now. wow, that was a long ramble. hope it all makes sense.

Ok, I get this idea. I assume then the DI boxes you mention have more than one output, otherwise I couldn't record them separately. Also, as with everything - the original signal needs to be preserved in its most purest form (at least as far as the tone of the guitar pickups/character goes) and for that the Radial JDI is the answer most people are happy with?

Cheers for the involved reply

[Telecastr]

Originally posted by GRiFF
Ok, I get this idea. I assume then the DI boxes you mention have more than one output, otherwise I couldn't record them separately. Also, as with everything - the original signal needs to be preserved in its most purest form (at least as far as the tone of the guitar pickups/character goes) and for that the Radial JDI is the answer most people are happy with?

Cheers for the involved reply

yeah...most DI boxes have a "thru", which will serve as an output to send the signal to whatever is next in the chain - in your case the guitar amp modeller. the XLR output on the other side of the DI is what you use to send to the preamp to record the track. As far as the Radial JDI being "the DI box" to use, it happens to be the one the i have and it is a very good one. there are others out there of about the same quality. the Radial has a Jenson Transformer in it. here's a link to the Radial site - http://www.radialeng.com/di-jdi.htm The JDI is a passive DI. Radial also makes an active DI. i believe it's called the P48. Both will work very well, it just depends on whether or not you'll need phantom power.