monitor upgrade

Unknown soldier · 4th December 2004

I'm using the event 20/20 BAS monitors, and the bass response is not as good as I would like - if you hear the bass while mixing then you know your CD will be too boomy in other systems....

What's a good pair of monitors that have extended bass response, say around $1k?

thanks

loke · 4th December 2004

I am in the same situation !!

Right now I will listen to the following Monitores to see which I like the most

Adams P22
Adams S2A
Adams P33
Genelec 1031
Dynaudio BM6a
Event ASP8

Some others which I should listen to aswell ???

**DrDeltaM** · 4th December 2004

Unknown soldier: $1k for active or passive?

loke: in the pricerange of stuff you list: the new PMC TB2S-A

James Lehmann · 4th December 2004

Yes - you need to include PMC TB2's on your audition list.

matucha · 4th December 2004

If you are stepping up from 20/20, I don't think you need more extended low end, maybe slightly, but the point is in more acurate bas... well more accurate everything.

The problems with muddyness could be related with painfull 2-6KHz that events have. You may compensate that with 200-300Hz mud in order to make mixes to sound "smoother". That acompanied with low resolution and scooped sounding mids... ahh... to say it shortly, your problems might be elsewhere than you think.

In my exp. something like P33-A would be nice step up. I don't know genelecs or dynaudio or PMC though.

loke · 4th December 2004

The PMC TB2 is now official on my audition list

max cooper · 4th December 2004

Quote:

if you hear the bass while mixing then you know your CD will be too boomy in other systems....

are you sure this isn't an issue with the space?

Unknown soldier · 4th December 2004

Quote:

Originally posted by max cooper
are you sure this isn't an issue with the space?

Possibly, as my space is less than ideal. I'm having difficutly translating the bass from my mixing setup (ghost with the 20/20s), but I mixing at a relatively low volume, to try and minimize any room interference...

I've heard many people complain about the 20/20 bass response as less than stellar, and I agree. Looking for active monitors around $1k - mackie, KRK? Something that will have better bass response.

**DrDeltaM** · 4th December 2004

The frequency response of your ears changes with volume as well. Low volume listening has less bass.

More bass response, as in being able to play lower frequencies, you'll prolly only achieve with a subwoofer system (2.1) for that price.
But accuracy with such a setup for $1k could be even worse then your current speakers...

007 · 4th December 2004

Besides being less than ideal, you never mentioned how big your room is. I can't tell you how many times I've been to peep's home studios only to find big 8" speakers in rooms slightly bigger than a walk-in-closet. Furthermore, you might want to invest in acoustic treatment, as that's half the equation right there. You can spend thousands on stellar monitors and still render horrible mixes as a result of a poor monitoring environment.

That said, the new KRK V6/V8 (series 2) are absolutely stellar, IMO.
Dynaudio BM5A's are supposed to be a great as well, and the BM6A's, well, those are 'the ones' I would love to have.
I personally hate all Event monitors. My first pair of real monitors were the 20/20 bas, which sucked, and I recently had to mix a project where the monitors were the TR-8's, which also sucked. Just my opinion, which means squat if you like them and your mixes translate.

4th December 2004	#1
Unknown soldier Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: solar system Posts: 867 Thread Starter	monitor upgrade I'm using the event 20/20 BAS monitors, and the bass response is not as good as I would like - if you hear the bass while mixing then you know your CD will be too boomy in other systems.... What's a good pair of monitors that have extended bass response, say around $1k? thanks

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DrDeltaM Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 4,301	Unknown soldier: $1k for active or passive? loke: in the pricerange of stuff you list: the new PMC TB2S-A __________________ Mathijs Indesteege aka Mathew Lane mixing - mastering - audio restoration - plugins http://www.mathewlane.com DrMS. Focus on your stereo field. - NEW v3.2 OUT NOW! DrMS spatial processor - native RTAS/AU/VST plugin » Digital Audio Product Support Joystick Audio - Benelux High End Distributor http://www.joystick.be

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matucha Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 2,900	If you are stepping up from 20/20, I don't think you need more extended low end, maybe slightly, but the point is in more acurate bas... well more accurate everything. The problems with muddyness could be related with painfull 2-6KHz that events have. You may compensate that with 200-300Hz mud in order to make mixes to sound "smoother". That acompanied with low resolution and scooped sounding mids... ahh... to say it shortly, your problems might be elsewhere than you think. In my exp. something like P33-A would be nice step up. I don't know genelecs or dynaudio or PMC though. __________________ Matous Godik www.soundcloud.com/zka4t

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loke Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Berlin Posts: 190	I am in the same situation !! Right now I will listen to the following Monitores to see which I like the most Adams P22 Adams S2A Adams P33 Genelec 1031 Dynaudio BM6a Event ASP8 Some others which I should listen to aswell ???

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007 Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,516	Besides being less than ideal, you never mentioned how big your room is. I can't tell you how many times I've been to peep's home studios only to find big 8" speakers in rooms slightly bigger than a walk-in-closet. Furthermore, you might want to invest in acoustic treatment, as that's half the equation right there. You can spend thousands on stellar monitors and still render horrible mixes as a result of a poor monitoring environment. That said, the new KRK V6/V8 (series 2) are absolutely stellar, IMO. Dynaudio BM5A's are supposed to be a great as well, and the BM6A's, well, those are 'the ones' I would love to have. I personally hate all Event monitors. My first pair of real monitors were the 20/20 bas, which sucked, and I recently had to mix a project where the monitors were the TR-8's, which also sucked. Just my opinion, which means squat if you like them and your mixes translate.