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Old 4th July 2008, 11:42 PM   #1
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API 3124 attenuation question

So i have an API 3124mb+ and the channels are obviously way too hot. I bought 2 a15as shure pads for channels 1/2. I just recorded guitars and had a question about my meters. I had the pads on 10 db pad (the lowest it can go) and even with my meters staying completely red the input to my LYNX/protools was super low. I had to keep cranking my gain/level knobs to even get a descent level. I felt like at some point I am driving my pre too hard and distorting the signal. Is there a remedy for this? Should I pull down my gain and use my level to crank the signal to get the level right? Should I not be using the shure pads? Any help is appreciated. Thanks dudes.
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Old 5th July 2008, 04:18 AM   #2
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Are you _hearing_ distortion? Most people seem to love the APIs driven hard.

Silly question to ask (maybe) - but where in the chain are you putting the pads?

IIRC you'd normally want them after the API... so your converters don't barf.

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Old 5th July 2008, 04:46 AM   #3
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This is why I don't use API. They sound great, but they're always overload. Then you use the pad and they don't sound great any more.


Turn the pre level down all the way, then add either the internal pad or your pad and everything should be fine.
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Old 5th July 2008, 05:49 AM   #4
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API 3124 into a Millennia STT-1, just turn down the output master, NO clipping.
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Old 5th July 2008, 05:53 AM   #5
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COMPLEATLY miss-read the post there

What input level are you getting without driving the pre's
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Old 5th July 2008, 05:57 AM   #6
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Hey thanks dudes...I'm getting like halfway to unity as far as just brushing the red. If I want it looking nice I have to push it sooo hard. I hear a little bit of distortion on the track so I've been pulling down the gain and using the level as make up. Is the gain pre and the level post as far as driving the channel goes?
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Old 5th July 2008, 06:00 AM   #7
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What LYNX AD's you using?
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Old 5th July 2008, 11:59 AM   #8
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I thought one of the advantages of the 3124mb over the 3124 was the inclusion of level faders for each channel and L/R master so you wouldn't need pads?
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The red LED on the API, if it's the same as the 512b is NOT clipping but more like +18 to +20db, clipping is around +31db, depending on frequency.
So you have around 10db of headroom.
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