Muddy mix

pistache · 24th November 2004

Im getting muddy mix from my system(motu 896) and i need a good pair of active speakers, im looking for dynaudio bm5a,
i need a second opinion or another choice of speaker i could go,

Fletcher · 24th November 2004

Your mix is muddy because your speakers are bright... find a set of monitors that isn't bright [as in when you play a record on them they almost sound dull] and you should be on your way to getting the results for which you quest.

Peace.

pistache · 24th November 2004

hi,
well for now, i DONT have a pair of speakers! just plain old sony mdr-7506 headphones!
My last pair of speaker was paradigm, but the room was very boomy, ive tried the bm6a and liket it for their precision,

007 · 24th November 2004

While Fletcher does make a good point in terms of how 'too bright' or 'too dark' a monitoring setup can affect your mix, there's are more variables that come into play, which you'll find out once you do get some monitors (BM5A's are a great choice, btw, go for it), there may be issues with the mix itself, which opens an entirely new can of worms.

Get some monitors, treat the room if needed, and then see about why your mix is "muddy". Could be many, many different reasons.

Teddy Gee · 24th November 2004

Pistache,

I have a number of pairs of Sony-7506's and they are definitely "hyped" in the upper mids, so a muddy mix wouldn't be too surprising. Compare them to a pair of Sennheiser HD 280's and you will see (hear) what I mean. But mixing on any headphones is going to make it really hard to get a mix to translate.

I second Fletcher's comment that at least one set of your monitors should almost sound dull to you, and I think it is tough to mix without at least two monitor outputs. One that is flat (or dull), and another that is more present/brighter so you have some point of comparison.

Stephen

Paul David · 24th November 2004

So what's your favorite dull monitor?

24th November 2004	#1
pistache Gear interested Joined: Nov 2004 Location: montreal Posts: 2 Thread Starter	Muddy mix Im getting muddy mix from my system(motu 896) and i need a good pair of active speakers, im looking for dynaudio bm5a, i need a second opinion or another choice of speaker i could go,

24th November 2004	#2
Fletcher member no 666 Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 10,110	Your mix is muddy because your speakers are bright... find a set of monitors that isn't bright [as in when you play a record on them they almost sound dull] and you should be on your way to getting the results for which you quest. Peace. __________________ CN Fletcher Professional Affiliations: R/E/P Professional Recording Engineer and Producer forums - serious hobbyists welcome SoundPure.com mwagener wrote on Sat, 11 September 2004 14:33 We are selling emotions, there are no emotions in a grid Roscoe Ambel once said: Pro-Tools is to audio what fluorescent is to light

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pistache Gear interested Joined: Nov 2004 Location: montreal Posts: 2 Thread Starter	reply hi, well for now, i DONT have a pair of speakers! just plain old sony mdr-7506 headphones! My last pair of speaker was paradigm, but the room was very boomy, ive tried the bm6a and liket it for their precision,

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007 Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,602	While Fletcher does make a good point in terms of how 'too bright' or 'too dark' a monitoring setup can affect your mix, there's are more variables that come into play, which you'll find out once you do get some monitors (BM5A's are a great choice, btw, go for it), there may be issues with the mix itself, which opens an entirely new can of worms. Get some monitors, treat the room if needed, and then see about why your mix is "muddy". Could be many, many different reasons.

24th November 2004	#5
Teddy Gee Gear addict Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 311	Pistache, I have a number of pairs of Sony-7506's and they are definitely "hyped" in the upper mids, so a muddy mix wouldn't be too surprising. Compare them to a pair of Sennheiser HD 280's and you will see (hear) what I mean. But mixing on any headphones is going to make it really hard to get a mix to translate. I second Fletcher's comment that at least one set of your monitors should almost sound dull to you, and I think it is tough to mix without at least two monitor outputs. One that is flat (or dull), and another that is more present/brighter so you have some point of comparison. Stephen

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Paul David Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 641	So what's your favorite dull monitor?