Let’s share some tips and tricks !

Max headroom · 14th November 2004, 08:24 PM

Hey guys I am looking on these threads and I think that we are missing such a thread . Let’s share our secrets , tips , tricks and other stuff.
Why should we be waiting for big dogs as I am sure that there is a lot of real pro people here with a lot of knowledge . In a couple of days I will be posting something that I know and I hope that you are going to like it . I am working ITB so post your tricks on mixing, usage of plugs , outboards and everything that You came up with and it is on your every project.
I think that this thread will be useful to beginners as well as to pro’s (I think …)

SpaceChild · 14th November 2004, 08:41 PM

Let me go first then.

I've developed some vocal 'tricks' over the years in search for larger than life pop harmonies. One of them is doubling some of the vocal harmony parts with two or more vocoder parts (where the modulator is another take that doesn't have 100% match with any of the other tracks) and blending it slightly with the rest of the vocal tracks and giving them a nice multiband bus compression with some cut bottom (below ~200hz) and boosted tops (at around 16k). Can be very nice and lush.

Of course the trick works better if your harmony arrangement is good to begin with :)

Spacey

SpaceChild · 14th November 2004, 11:27 PM

Adding to the previous, I never use the vocoded parts before I've got a full stack of voices (usually 6 parts 6-8 tracks each) first. Unless of course you want it to sound vocoded.

Spacey

Chris VAEDA · 15th November 2004, 02:42 AM

I was thinking about trying the vocoder idea out...That's cool that you get good results with it.

Here's another vocal trick: ampfarm the lead vocal with a low-distortion setting and blend it back in with the original. It works like an exciter.

waxnsteel · 15th November 2004, 03:14 AM

Instant doubletrack. If you have an good vocalist, and an Antares ATR-1 box, record two tracks. I sent Mic --> pre--> split however you want, one side directly to a record track, the other through the Antares unit, and to a track. Pan em til you hear a good chorusey sound. The tracks I was getting were sounding similar to Patrick Monahan on doubled sections. Not a huge trick, but it's kinda cool. As for settings, something like 10 and 24-28.

Max headroom · 15th November 2004, 04:53 PM

I am having a hard time taking snapshots of my effects to post them but It will happen today or tomorrow as soon as my friend shows me how to do it .

BUT 230 views and only 3 tricks !!! This is really cruel cruel world

**Jules** · 15th November 2004, 04:59 PM

There are plenty of tricks already posted up..

I personally am not minded to re type all my tips since the site started...

It has been said that we need a 'best of' archive...

hmmmmmmm......

Perhaps something to look into for the future...

Fear not, seek and ye shall find!

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/search.php3?

Max headroom · 15th November 2004, 05:19 PM

I agree Jules . There is a point in having good stuff in a place where it is going to be easy to find them , and that was exactly my point . But new plugs are here , approaches too …
new ideas also . Don’t get me wrong , I am not new to production work , but believe me you can learn something new from someone that you least expect .

Absolute · 15th November 2004, 11:25 PM

Yeah..but there should be a "Tips that Suck" section too

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14th November 2004, 08:24 PM	#1
Max headroom Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 319	Let’s share some tips and tricks ! Hey guys I am looking on these threads and I think that we are missing such a thread . Let’s share our secrets , tips , tricks and other stuff. Why should we be waiting for big dogs as I am sure that there is a lot of real pro people here with a lot of knowledge . In a couple of days I will be posting something that I know and I hope that you are going to like it . I am working ITB so post your tricks on mixing, usage of plugs , outboards and everything that You came up with and it is on your every project. I think that this thread will be useful to beginners as well as to pro’s (I think …)

15th November 2004, 04:59 PM	#7
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 11,813	There are plenty of tricks already posted up.. I personally am not minded to re type all my tips since the site started... It has been said that we need a 'best of' archive... hmmmmmmm...... Perhaps something to look into for the future... Fear not, seek and ye shall find! http://www.gearslutz.com/board/search.php3? __________________ Jules "...there are some amazing deals to be had in this right now. it brings battleship mixing closer to the jilted generation" - reptil

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14th November 2004, 08:41 PM	#2
SpaceChild Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: UK/FI Posts: 190	Let me go first then. I've developed some vocal 'tricks' over the years in search for larger than life pop harmonies. One of them is doubling some of the vocal harmony parts with two or more vocoder parts (where the modulator is another take that doesn't have 100% match with any of the other tracks) and blending it slightly with the rest of the vocal tracks and giving them a nice multiband bus compression with some cut bottom (below ~200hz) and boosted tops (at around 16k). Can be very nice and lush. Of course the trick works better if your harmony arrangement is good to begin with :) Spacey

14th November 2004, 11:27 PM	#3
SpaceChild Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: UK/FI Posts: 190	Adding to the previous, I never use the vocoded parts before I've got a full stack of voices (usually 6 parts 6-8 tracks each) first. Unless of course you want it to sound vocoded. Spacey

15th November 2004, 02:42 AM	#4
Chris VAEDA Gear interested Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 20	I was thinking about trying the vocoder idea out...That's cool that you get good results with it. Here's another vocal trick: ampfarm the lead vocal with a low-distortion setting and blend it back in with the original. It works like an exciter.

15th November 2004, 03:14 AM	#5
waxnsteel Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 128	Instant doubletrack. If you have an good vocalist, and an Antares ATR-1 box, record two tracks. I sent Mic --> pre--> split however you want, one side directly to a record track, the other through the Antares unit, and to a track. Pan em til you hear a good chorusey sound. The tracks I was getting were sounding similar to Patrick Monahan on doubled sections. Not a huge trick, but it's kinda cool. As for settings, something like 10 and 24-28.

15th November 2004, 04:53 PM	#6
Max headroom Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 319	I am having a hard time taking snapshots of my effects to post them but It will happen today or tomorrow as soon as my friend shows me how to do it . BUT 230 views and only 3 tricks !!! This is really cruel cruel world

15th November 2004, 05:19 PM	#8
Max headroom Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 319	I agree Jules . There is a point in having good stuff in a place where it is going to be easy to find them , and that was exactly my point . But new plugs are here , approaches too … new ideas also . Don’t get me wrong , I am not new to production work , but believe me you can learn something new from someone that you least expect .

15th November 2004, 11:25 PM	#9
Absolute Lives for gear Join Date: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 833	Yeah..but there should be a "Tips that Suck" section too