Micing Toms Inside?

[Renegade Prod]

Hey guys,
Can you please tell me everything you know and have found about micing toms from inside the actual tom (removing the bottom skin and leaving it off.

thinking of trying it with beta52's or D112's

Cheers sluts.

[bgrotto]

It sounds kinda "doinky", for lack a better word. Sorta like when you mic the inside of a kick drum, complete with standing waves, etc. Moving the mic a tiny bit makes a huge difference, and of course, the separation is pretty awesome. You can also get an insane amount of attack by putting the mic super close to the head; just make sure to leave enough room for the head to give when the drummer hits it, otherwise he'll smack the mic.

As for mic choice, I'd suggest you throw whatever you usually use on toms in there as a reference point. Once you hear what the inside mic is doing differently than you usual outside mic, consider using a different microphone. And don't forget to try an omni.

[travisbrown]

It works, but the concert tom sound sounds, well, dated. It's come back in recent years with some the "low-fi" punkish bands, but it will pass again.

Phil Collins always has loved the concert tom sound.

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[travisbrown]

Here's the rest of them:

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[Renegade Prod]

thanks guys,
yeh i was hoping you would reference it to the inside of a kick drum.
A project i have coming up would really benefit from having really punchy toms that dont resonate too much.

but ill definitely mess around with different mics, positions and A/B with my standard above tom position

cheers

[Jay Kahrs]

Originally Posted by Renegade Prod

thanks guys,
yeh i was hoping you would reference it to the inside of a kick drum.
A project i have coming up would really benefit from having really punchy toms that dont resonate too much.

In that case try some Remo powerstroke or pinstripe heads. Thick, multilayer heads with a ring on the outside edges. Coated will have a little more tone then clear, which will have more stick impact & smack. Try some moongels too, or better, drop a few cotton balls inside the drums when you replace the heads. That'll dampen the resonance of the bottom head in a natural way that doesn't create noise like a ring or tape.

On the flip side, having mics inside the toms with both heads in place sounds pretty normal & gives good separation. Talking really about the May miking system...

[Sigma]

Originally Posted by Renegade Prod

Hey guys,
Can you please tell me everything you know and have found about micing toms from inside the actual tom (removing the bottom skin and leaving it off.

thinking of trying it with beta52's or D112's

Cheers sluts.

re 15's inside the shell about 1/2 up..put on your poly fiber pants and platform shoes.. disco all night

[travisbrown]

Originally Posted by Sigma

..put on your poly fiber pants and platform shoes.. disco all night

Dude, to put them on means I'd have to take them off first.