Mic techniques for recording Heavy guitar tone

[brendondp]

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[gko]

Originally posted by LTA
You can get past the low end buildup by using open back-style cabs. A bit sacriligious if you think the only way to big heavy guitar sounds come only from a sealed back 4x12, but it works .

Rammstein uses open 4x12 cabs live

[Tim L]

Originally posted by Gregg Sartiano
... How do you split the signal coming out of the guitar?...

The splitter on the Little Labs STD is most excellent!

[Gregg Sartiano]

Originally posted by Tim L
The splitter on the Little Labs STD is most excellent!

I dunno if I want an STD, even if it is from Little Labs.

[hethaerto]

I think I'm the only person I know that does this:
I use a cabinet I built several years ago. I run two 10" Madison bass guitar speakers. The cab has no covering for the speakers.
I place a 57 perpindicular to the surface of the driver on the outboard center. I place the 57 as close to the driver as I can without touching while the driver is driving.
I get the tone I want with very small angle and distance adjustments.
Guys that place their mics outside the grill are losing out. Plus, with this ultra-close miking technique, not much volume is needed.
Allen

[toledo3]

Ugh, miking the driver straight on can be a pretty crass sound without much bass, but that could be exactly what is called for....

A good rule of thumb is that the closer you get to the very edge of the speaker, the more bass response. No right or wrong, obviously.

BTW, a sealed cab will not have as much apparent bass...

[hethaerto]

Originally posted by toledo3
Ugh, miking the driver straight on can be a pretty crass sound without much bass, but that could be exactly what is called for....

A good rule of thumb is that the closer you get to the very edge of the speaker, the more bass response. No right or wrong, obviously.

BTW, a sealed cab will not have as much apparent bass...

No No! I'm not talking about pointing the mic straight at the center of the cone. That sounds horrible!
I point the mic at the driver, not the dust cover.
Allen

[Tim L]

Originally posted by Gregg Sartiano
I dunno if I want an STD, even if it is from Little Labs.

Welp, no pain... no gain! (pun intended ) Sometimes you gotta suffer for your art...

[maskedman72]

ok so now that we have a bit on the mics and where to put them,what about getting the phase correct......

we will use this situation so we are all on the same page.

you have 1 4x12 cab and its close mic'd up with these 2 mics;1 sm57 and 1 md421.


there is no ibp either. all you have are 2 mics into 2 pres.

how do you go about getting these in the best phase relation?

i have heard of people talking about moving mics around until the "hiss" drops out.

can someone explain how to do this?

i have also heard people say that as long as the 2 mics are close up on the grill,you need not worry about phase.


are there other methods?

[crille]

Does somebody know how they have miked on Killswitch Engage's "As Daylight Dies?", the guitar sound is ****ing perfect there.

[tamakid1292]

i have a beta also and if u put that on the cab u get this very low end sound and it gets alot of the crunch try it out

[maskedman72]

my latest trick for heavy gtr is the fractal audio axe-fx. this thing just kills.