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10th October 2013
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L-R bus for two of the tracks and aux 3 & 4 for the other two? That way they're all post fader.
Great! I didn't think of this!

In this way If I have 16 channels on tracking I can mix everything and than split all in 2 tracks stereo going into my 4tracks recorder!
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11th October 2013
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I 'm between zed r16 and Midas f24 for the same price, is the zed r16 build with better quality component for the analog summing purpose?
Any shoot out ?
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11th October 2013
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Been watching this thread for some time and decided to get me one.
Wow, already spent more than ten hours to get it up and running.
Today did a fresh install of w7 professional and still no luck. Turned all drivers off, replaced all drivers and on and on.

Issue1: midi seems to do nothing
Issue2: when started up the ah tool says, driver issue.
Issue3: ah tool up an d running, than switched on the zed r16, divice is seen and shows drivers are in sync. But not possible to update the driver on the mixer, loaing stops after 2%.
issue4: ableton recognise the zed, but thats all...

Replaced the cable, firewire card (ti) is new.
Zed is selected as only soundcard, turned off all other.
Fresh restall of windows, so no legacy drivers left.


Any tips how to move further?
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11th October 2013
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Been watching this thread for some time and decided to get me one.
Wow, already spent more than ten hours to get it up and running.
Today did a fresh install of w7 professional and still no luck. Turned all drivers off, replaced all drivers and on and on.

Issue1: midi seems to do nothing
Issue2: when started up the ah tool says, driver issue.
Issue3: ah tool up an d running, than switched on the zed r16, divice is seen and shows drivers are in sync. But not possible to update the driver on the mixer, loaing stops after 2%.
issue4: ableton recognise the zed, but thats all...

Replaced the cable, firewire card (ti) is new.
Zed is selected as only soundcard, turned off all other.
Fresh restall of windows, so no legacy drivers left.


Any tips how to move further?
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12th October 2013
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Been watching this thread for some time and decided to get me one.
Wow, already spent more than ten hours to get it up and running.
Today did a fresh install of w7 professional and still no luck. Turned all drivers off, replaced all drivers and on and on.

Issue1: midi seems to do nothing
Issue2: when started up the ah tool says, driver issue.
Issue3: ah tool up an d running, than switched on the zed r16, divice is seen and shows drivers are in sync. But not possible to update the driver on the mixer, loaing stops after 2%.
issue4: ableton recognise the zed, but thats all...

Replaced the cable, firewire card (ti) is new.
Zed is selected as only soundcard, turned off all other.
Fresh restall of windows, so no legacy drivers left.


Any tips how to move further?
At this point,i would try to beg/borrow another computer to load it on so i could rule in/out the zed as the problem.
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12th October 2013
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Can anyone tell if you see an issue here?

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit Service Pack 1 [6.1.7601]
* CPU(s):
*** Processor:* Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
*** Physical:* 1
*** Cores:**** 4
*** Logical:** 8
*** L1 Cache:* 32 KB** (8)
*** L2 Cache:* 256 KB* (4)
*** L3 Cache: 8192 KB* (1)
* Installed RAM: 16301 MB
* Microsoft 1394ohci.sys [6.1.7601.17514]
* Microsoft ohci1394.sys [6.1.7600.16385] ????
* Microsoft 1394bus.sys* [6.1.7600.16385] ????
Looking for OHCI 1394 Host Controllers...
1:
* Vendor : (104C) Texas Instruments
* Chipset: (8235) XIO2200A
* Revision: 01
* Status :* Active
* Details:
*** Subsysten VendorId: 104c
*** Subsystem DeviceId: 8023
*** Max # isoch Rx contexts: 4
*** Max # isoch Tx contexts: 4
* Max 1394 Speed Capability: S400
* Support:* Compatible, no known issues.
2:
* Vendor : (104C) Texas Instruments
* Chipset: (8235) XIO2200A
* Revision: 01
* Status :* No longer present, or disabled.
* Details:
*** Subsysten VendorId: 104c
*** Subsystem DeviceId: 8023
*** Max # isoch Rx contexts: 4
*** Max # isoch Tx contexts: 4
* Max 1394 Speed Capability: S400
* Support:* Compatible, no known issues.
3:
* Vendor : (1106) VIA Technologies
* Chipset: (3044) VT6307/VT6308
* Revision: C0
* Status :* No longer present, or disabled.
* Details:
*** Subsysten VendorId: 1458
*** Subsystem DeviceId: 1000
*** Max # isoch Rx contexts: 4
*** Max # isoch Tx contexts: 8
* Max 1394 Speed Capability: S400
* Support:* Compatible, no known issues.
Done.
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12th October 2013
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Can anyone tell if you see an issue here?

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit Service Pack 1 [6.1.7601]
* CPU(s):
*** Processor:* Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
*** Physical:* 1
*** Cores:**** 4
*** Logical:** 8
*** L1 Cache:* 32 KB** (8)
*** L2 Cache:* 256 KB* (4)
*** L3 Cache: 8192 KB* (1)
* Installed RAM: 16301 MB
* Microsoft 1394ohci.sys [6.1.7601.17514]
* Microsoft ohci1394.sys [6.1.7600.16385] ????
* Microsoft 1394bus.sys* [6.1.7600.16385] ????
Looking for OHCI 1394 Host Controllers...
1:
* Vendor : (104C) Texas Instruments
* Chipset: (8235) XIO2200A
* Revision: 01
* Status :* Active
* Details:
*** Subsysten VendorId: 104c
*** Subsystem DeviceId: 8023
*** Max # isoch Rx contexts: 4
*** Max # isoch Tx contexts: 4
* Max 1394 Speed Capability: S400
* Support:* Compatible, no known issues.
2:
* Vendor : (104C) Texas Instruments
* Chipset: (8235) XIO2200A
* Revision: 01
* Status :* No longer present, or disabled.
* Details:
*** Subsysten VendorId: 104c
*** Subsystem DeviceId: 8023
*** Max # isoch Rx contexts: 4
*** Max # isoch Tx contexts: 4
* Max 1394 Speed Capability: S400
* Support:* Compatible, no known issues.
3:
* Vendor : (1106) VIA Technologies
* Chipset: (3044) VT6307/VT6308
* Revision: C0
* Status :* No longer present, or disabled.
* Details:
*** Subsysten VendorId: 1458
*** Subsystem DeviceId: 1000
*** Max # isoch Rx contexts: 4
*** Max # isoch Tx contexts: 8
* Max 1394 Speed Capability: S400
* Support:* Compatible, no known issues.
Done.
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12th October 2013
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Looks like issues with your FW drivers.

* Microsoft 1394ohci.sys [6.1.7601.17514]
this driver appears to be working OK
* Microsoft ohci1394.sys [6.1.7600.16385] ????
* Microsoft 1394bus.sys* [6.1.7600.16385] ????

These two drivers seem to not be working

2:
* Vendor : (104C) Texas Instruments
* Chipset: (8235) XIO2200A
* Revision: 01
* Status :* No longer present, or disabled.
This FW port isn't working
3:
* Vendor : (1106) VIA Technologies
* Chipset: (3044) VT6307/VT6308
* Revision: C0
* Status :* No longer present, or disabled.
This one isn't working either.

Might have some FW conflicts going on...multiple installs of drivers...
The TI FW should work, not sure about the VIA some of those models don't work and might be causing a conflict or problem.
I've always used a separate PCI or PCI(e) FW card in the computer (TI chipset brand) and use the drivers.
That OHCI tool from A&H will tell you if the FW connection is correct and if there are any conflicts.
Then of course you have to make sure Ableton has all the correct settings too.
Also check the DICE dialog box and make sure everything is normal
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13th October 2013
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I have a problem with my zed r16.

It is with the DIG MASTER button, I have configured everything in the audio midi set up so that the digital master output are channels 17-18, but ehay I use iTunes or youtube or any other audio app other than a DAW, it just doesn't work, I have to route the output through channels 1-2, assign them to the master L-R and pan them, does anyone knows how to fix it.

Thanks
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13th October 2013
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I have a problem with my zed r16.

It is with the DIG MASTER button, I have configured everything in the audio midi set up so that the digital master output are channels 17-18, but ehay I use iTunes or youtube or any other audio app other than a DAW, it just doesn't work, I have to route the output through channels 1-2, assign them to the master L-R and pan them, does anyone knows how to fix it.

Thanks
You should be able to go into the DICE control panel and under the WDM tab change & drag the channels to where you want them to output "Main L/R" (17/18) instead of the default 1/2. They can be dragged to any channel you like there but sounds like Main L/R would be your preference.
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14th October 2013
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From 1 to 10 how you describe the quality of the zed r16 respect a random set up of an 7-8k audio interface + analog mixer ?
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You should be able to go into the DICE control panel and under the WDM tab change & drag the channels to where you want them to output "Main L/R" (17/18) instead of the default 1/2. They can be dragged to any channel you like there but sounds like Main L/R would be your preference.

In Dice control in osx don't exist the WDM tab, any workaround?
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14th October 2013
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From 1 to 10 how you describe the quality of the zed r16 respect a random set up of an 7-8k audio interface + analog mixer ?
Ok... I'm gonna chime in here.

Here's the issue with this question:

If you spend an extra five grand, you'd expect it to be better. But where's the money gonna go? An extra 5k on upgrading the ADDA? - So say the ZED and what? What's the 18 channel ADDA you'll get for 5k that's much better than the ZED's ADDA?

You could get a lynx for £2000 and another two channels for - anything from a grand to five grand, but say you only spent another £1000 on two more channels of ADDA; that leaves you at 3k gone.

Now what board will you get for 4-5k that's THAT much better than the ZED?

The TOFT ATB 16?

That's pretty much the best option

So.

If you say how much better is the TOFT ATB 16, plus a Lynx Auroura plus a Mytek 2 channel DA box, than a 2k ZED R16?

Well if that's your 10, then the ZED is a 7 I'd say.

But.

What else could you spend your 5k on?

Remember the ADDA of the ZED can be upgraded at any point. And you'll still have the 16 preamps and 16 channels of very nice analogue EQ.

So Zed plus Lynx, plus Mytek = 5k-ish.

And you could get a nice analogue compressor.

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Ok... I'm gonna chime in here.

Here's the issue with this question:

If you spend an extra five grand, you'd expect it to be better. But where's the money gonna go? An extra 5k on upgrading the ADDA? - So say the ZED and what? What's the 18 channel ADDA you'll get for 5k that's much better than the ZED's ADDA?

You could get a lynx for £2000 and another two channels for - anything from a grand to five grand, but say you only spent another £1000 on two more channels of ADDA; that leaves you at 3k gone.

Now what board will you get for 4-5k that's THAT much better than the ZED?

The TOFT ATB 16?

That's pretty much the best option

So.

If you say how much better is the TOFT ATB 16, plus a Lynx Auroura plus a Mytek 2 channel DA box, than a 2k ZED R16?

Well if that's your 10, then the ZED is a 7 I'd say.

But.

What else could you spend your 5k on?

Remember the ADDA of the ZED can be upgraded at any point. And you'll still have the 16 preamps and 16 channels of very nice analogue EQ.

So Zed plus Lynx, plus Mytek = 5k-ish.

And you could get a nice analogue compressor.

Ok im in!

I hope the firewire can work with my MacBook pro 4,1 ( 2008 )
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Ok im in!

I hope the firewire can work with my MacBook pro 4,1 ( 2008 )
Don't let me decide for you, but... IMO the ZED as a board is great, the EQs are fantastic and the Preamps are as good as the DAV stuff (i.e. very good). It's easy to upgrade and integrate it into your setup and will retain decent value. Plus it's not huge money to try it and see how it changes your flow. It's a different and many people think quicker way to work. YMMV.

Besides, who knows your options in 2-3 years. This certainly is worth a shot, and has many happy users!



Best of luck, and I think that mac should be just fine

If you need help setting it up, just post on here or send me a message
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14th October 2013
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I have buy it right now!

Thanks MasterCard!
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I have buy it right now!

Thanks MasterCard!
Best of luck!
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Best of luck!
Thanks!
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In Dice control in osx don't exist the WDM tab, any workaround?
Sorry....not real sure about Mac but I think it has something to do with changing or adding something in the "Aggregate"?? sound device module and then you should be able to assign the Main channels for those apps.

Maybe someone here who uses Mac will post the exact answer....
I'm pretty sure I've seen that question answered on here for Mac's before so maybe try a search of this thread....it's a pretty common issue.
I just assumed the OP was using Windows.
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From 1 to 10 how you describe the quality of the zed r16 respect a random set up of an 7-8k audio interface + analog mixer ?
About a 5-6K difference, so maybe the ZED gets a 5 or a 6....LOL
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In Dice control in osx don't exist the WDM tab, any workaround?
I found this for the Mac, not sure if it helps but it looks like the solution to iTunes and other apps routing to the Main L/R channels...
Hope this helps!
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From 1 to 10 how you describe the quality of the zed r16 respect a random set up of an 7-8k audio interface + analog mixer ?
Assuming you had 7-8k monitors,exellent mics and were very good at gain staging,tracking and mixing,you might be able to hear a slight difference.
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Assuming you had 7-8k monitors,exellent mics and were very good at gain staging,tracking and mixing,you might be able to hear a slight difference.
This would also be my opinion. The build quality and routing on the ATB is a BIT more pro, but then again, in the SOS review unit had crackling EQ pots... So... For the money, nothing beats the ZED IMO. And the sound quality is superb.

Not 50K superb, but compared to what else is anywhere near that price point, it's a no-brainer.

- 16 high quality analogue EQS
- 16+ channels of ADDA
- 16 high quality preamps
- High quality controller surface
- Built in the UK by a respected company
- High quality fit and finish


Slightly more expensive than 2 channels ADDA of Mytek.
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15th October 2013
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I found this for the Mac, not sure if it helps but it looks like the solution to iTunes and other apps routing to the Main L/R channels...
Hope this helps!
already try that, it works for itunes, VLC, the only problem is youtube, not big deal but...

thanks anyway
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Anyone using Logic Pro X with the Zed? I can't seem to get the midi stuff working!! Worked fine on Logic Pro... Help!
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already try that, it works for itunes, VLC, the only problem is youtube, not big deal but...

thanks anyway
Just guessing but that might be something in your browser settings???
They use some sort of Java applet or Adobe flash player which may have output options. Either way it's something you need to look at in your Mac OS.
There's nothing really in the ZED you can change except for the DICE panel and even that is a driver in your OS.
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Anyone using Logic Pro X with the Zed? I can't seem to get the midi stuff working!! Worked fine on Logic Pro... Help!
I don't use Logic or a Mac but I can tell you any MIDI control has to be setup in the specific DAW....again there is nothing the ZED does other than transmit MIDI commands. So I would go through your manual for Logic Pro or Pro X and find the section on MIDI controllers and read on how to use the "learn" mode per Logic's specific steps. There's no magic automatic operation. All of the MIDI commands are listed in the ZED manual so you can check you are getting the right commands from the right switches and faders.
Also if it worked in Logic Pro you should be able to look through that and see what was done there and copy it to your new DAW. I'm pretty sure Logic Pro X didn't change any of that functionality.
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[QUOTE=djmukilteo;9507128]Just guessing but that might be something in your browser settings???
They use some sort of Java applet or Adobe flash player which may have output options. Either way it's something you need to look at in your Mac OS.
There's nothing really in the ZED you can change except for the DICE panel and even that is a driver in your OS.[/QUOTE

you're right man, in safari works well.
definitely chrome sound ouput.


problem solved
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[QUOTE=danihell;9507469]
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Just guessing but that might be something in your browser settings???
They use some sort of Java applet or Adobe flash player which may have output options. Either way it's something you need to look at in your Mac OS.
There's nothing really in the ZED you can change except for the DICE panel and even that is a driver in your OS.[/QUOTE

you're right man, in safari works well.
definitely chrome sound ouput.


problem solved
Awesome...glad you got it sorted!
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Logic x works fine here.
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