New style of software compressor

[aapee]

Hi dudes!

Have you already notice this new kind of software compressor from Elemental Audio. I bought it strait and it seems to be very effective little guy. Go and check it: http://www.elementalaudio.com/produc...ium/index.html . And it's also colourful

Respect,

AaPee

[filterdude]

downloaded the demo...it's totally awesome!!!

bert/filterheadz

[grahluk]

I got their EQ plugs and they are very useful (methinks Wavesesqe). If the compressor sounds as good it should be worth it. very novel aproach to dynamics. I'd like to play with it and see what can be done.

[aapee]

Hi!

It is awesome, isn't it. Try the last preset at the list for the snare track and you get some more punch. Grahluk, the sonical quality in this plugin is at the same line with their eq's. Believe me, it is worth to try.

Respect,

AaPee

[SoundEng1]

The Compressor is Kick ASS!! The Eq's Are Great!
Don't take my word for it, Give them a Try!

[007]

Yup, got the demo, been playing with it for a few days now. I'm about to get the Visa out. It's friggin' awesome sounding!

[Max headroom]

HI

One question is bugging me , when you say that this plug is GREAT how does it compare to , say UAD compressors . Is it worse better or is it in same league at all.

looking forward to your reply

Thanks

[DanV]

I love this compressor - mix it with a good multiband, or perhaps a transient shaper, and you have absolute control!!!!!! It does something I've always dreamed about, it splits the signal into 4 different level zones based on the volume, you then can treat each level with completely different compression or expansion properties - killer! I hope they make an eq based around a similar concept as this. So far I've used it the most on drum buss -- what is everyone else out there enjoying it on?


Cheers,

[diaspora]

drum buss over here...

also been monkeying with their eqs...equally effective

i think the beauty of these is their versatility and, of course, the sound

[LumenStudio]

I just got closer to the snare sound that I've always wanted with this thing. A+

I need to try the others so I can decide on buying the bundle or not.

Sweet

Edit:

Spent some more time with this, and although the UAD stuff is very useful, this just got me sounds I was unable to acheive with the UAD. Snare Pop preset rules for the snare sound I'm trying to get.

I tried the channel EQ and it seems cool. The Buss EQ seemed not as impressive, but I did not give it a fair chance yet.

[djui5]

That's f'n genius......holy crap.

[catfish11]

found this thing, i have a pc (samplitude)and mac (protools hd3)
put it on rtas for protools rig - best drum compressor i have personally ever heard - snare and overhead
got it for mastering in samp - forgetaboutit - it lives on my drum bus now
secret weapon- i guess the secret is out

[Dan-O]

Originally posted by djui5
That's f'n genius......holy crap.

Yep. Holy Crap. Very impressive. VERY transperant. I actually have to follow it with something for color if needed. Sonalksis EQ for example. Lives on my drum buss as well now...ur for now.

[bdunard]

I just downloaded the equim as well. Hopefully it's a good eq as well. You can get both the comp and eq for $169.

[diaspora]

this one is less of an immediate satisfier but i think it takes some time to understand what it's trying to do...

part of its pitch is similar to the Powercore Assimilator plug (which, incidentally, can do great things for individual channels/stems - i.e. dialing up a particular character for a drum buss) but i'm not sure i really know what i'm doing with it to get the most from it

[toolskid]

what the latency in samples?

ta in advance

[LumenStudio]

I just picked up the whole bundle. I also picked up the UAD Precision Limiter at the same time. I will report back with results. Drum buss is killer for sure.

Still digging my voxengo polysquasher on the 2 buss. I'm surprised nobody else has commented on this thing yet. Transparent glue, just like I want.

My plugin buying streak.... all because of a cold....

[Albert]

How is this different than using several hardware compressors and a crossover? I understand that there are 7 different filter types available, and nice metering, but the rest seems pretty traditional. Basically four compressors and a crossover.

[DanV]

Albert - I've never known of any crossovers that function to seperate amplitude regions instead of frequency ones that are actually somewhere out on the pro audio market and used often. I suppose they exist, just never heard about any, but I know in software I have seen some things like this before. To me i think the actual eq component is nice -- also the way it is set up is just right -(ie you don't hear weird things happen when you are near crossover points, if it is a sort fo crossover the crossings/overlapped sections are kept to a minimum). It sounds more fluid and dynamic than what i would expect from just a simple 4 band crossover type deal. I'm interested as well though as to how it is different from what you mentioned it could be.

[diaspora]

Hey Albert,

this is how they describe the plugin's function...it's amplitude rather than frequency dependent:

"Neodynium allows you to break your audio levels into regions, so you may apply different
compression settings to each region. Neodynium refers to these regions as “zones.” Don't get
confused by Neodynium?s zones. As we've learned, Neodynium isn't a multi-band compressor.
Just as you manipulate the frequency display of a graphic equalizer to affect specific audio
frequencies, so do you manipulate Neodynium's Input/Output (I/O) Map to affect specific audio
levels. With Neodynium you can, for example, compress and bring up things that are quieter
while minimally affecting higher levels."

[Albert]

Thanks for the help. So the Neodynium is single band as far as frequency but multi-dynamic? So, somewhat more similar to parallel compression rather than multi-band compression. Seems like like you could set up Neodynium much like you'd use parallel compression, where the compression raises up the the lower level sections but then basically disappears in the louder parts.

I'm rather tempted by this plugin, I must say. Those of you that have it, how clean is it? Can you hear it doing anything "funny" to the signal at all, any artifacts of any kind?

[DanV]

no artifacts - elemental are real cleanly

[LumenStudio]

Like any compressor it can change the sound if you use it to do so. Low ratios seem pretty transparent to me.

This thing is awesome on the drum buss. I use it on snare for extra snap along with Waves Trans X. I haven't got past the presets on it though, since I've been tied up doing other things. They make the package deal for the comp, channel eq, and buss eq very attractive at $239. I picked all of them just to have them in the rig. The channel EQ's help out when I'm running out of UAD horse power. The channel EQ is very user friendly and the sound seems ok. I have not had a chance to do a really extensive test of any of the plugs yet, but I liked them enough to buy them within a day...

I'll also through in another plug for the voxengo polyquasher. That comp is the most transparent compressor that I've heard.

[Albert]

Okay, I downloaded the demo. The audio drops out every few seconds though, is that part of the demo or am I doing something wrong? The audio drops out frequently enough that I'm finding it really hard to evaluate the product, can't listen long enough without being interrupted.

I have an acid test that I use on every plugin, and that is some solo piano tracks I recorded using great gear, in a great studio, super engineer, on a wonderful Steinway concert grand. I know the tracks *really* well, and they are very exposed and high quality so you can hear what's going on. No plugin has passed the clean test on these tracks, and so far this one hasn't either, but I think I need to play with it more.

Any suggestions of settings for Neodynium for a super clean invisible mastering type of processing on these piano tracks? They are classical-ish. I'm still having some trouble getting my head around this processor, and the audio dropouts aren't helping.

Is there a Mac OSX version of the Voxengo?

[diaspora]

wow, that sounds bizarre...i've experienced nothing like that and zero artefacts...in fact, it's done amazing things in my quick tests...perhaps it is a demo 'thing'?

[DanV]

The demo drops out - it was designed to.

Albert, I would like to hear more about your clean test and why you think the neodynium is not a clean compressor, I would also like to find out what real hardware compressor you consider to pass this test.

[button]

Thanks aapee ... most amazing device! What I think most fascinating is the Neodium's ability to bring up overall ambience level in a recording (by compressing selective peaks) ... it's like adding ... um ... reverb! Quite unlike anything I've heard before. The side chain eq makes it a very, very effective de-esser.

[Dan-O]

Originally posted by Albert
Any suggestions of settings for Neodynium for a super clean invisible mastering type of processing on these piano tracks?

Imposable to suggest without hearing what you have of cource. Maybe you only need one region. I'm finding that I really don't need (so far) more than two. I will say that the attack and release settings are very important with this plug. You can get away with much faster attack times for instance. I will also say that so far, even though I haven't used it for these yet, I don't see this plug being as popular on 2 buss or mastering applications as putting it across individual track and group busses. IMO

[Albert]

Well, perhaps clean is not the proper word to use. I can hear the processing, let's put it that way, something undesirable sort of hiding behind the whole sound. I hear this on every plugin I've ever tried, so perhaps it's just part of the sound of the things. This Neodynium is one of the best I've listened to yet though.

As far as hardware, every box has a sound. The thing is, with good hardware I don't hear that plugin sound messing with the tone. It's subtle, and I doubt you would hear it on a lot of types of material. But on this exposed acoustic piano stuff you can really hear into the sound.

I'll try using a single region, or maybe two, and play with the attack and release settings some more. There's a lot to learn in using this compressor, and I am testing it in a mastering sort of way.

[diaspora]

i find something similar - i've not been a fan of plugins thus far (my TDM experience is limited) and have continued to stick with analog hardware...

however, when it comes to certain surgical tasks, i've found myself working more and more with plugins that don't impose their own sonic character...

i find that my sequencer's plugins (logic) are adequate but leave something to be desired - i hear the processing and really dislike it but it's quick and efficient - a tradeoff i suppose

these elemental audio bits allow me to get closer to what i want without as much compromise as i've perceived under emagic plugs...