Oktava MK-012 for overheads? or ATM450?

[heisleyamor]

I want to upgrade my overheads. I have 2 Samson C02s right now. I get a pretty decent sound with those and Beta 52, Sm7b, and SM57s. Which give you a more full sound? I need some nice condensers for Acoustic too. So that would be great if they sound great for both. Any suggestions? Tryin to stay under 500 dollars used

[heisleyamor]

anyone? I know people have some opinions. I need a nice overhead sound and it would nice to have a nice acoustic sound too. My Samson C02s aren't cutting it lately. Need something under 500 dollars. Thanks!

[reflixtinian]

Originally Posted by heisleyamor

anyone? I know people have some opinions. I need a nice overhead sound and it would nice to have a nice acoustic sound too. My Samson C02s aren't cutting it lately. Need something under 500 dollars. Thanks!

The AT will capture more room than the oktavas ( i own both ) If you have a big room with high celings both will do the job , for a smaller room i prefer the oktavas , those have a silky sound , a bit darker but more natural sound good for cymbals ... the toms sound great with this ones , on the other side the At will give you a more forward snare sound, more crack....atack, and aceptable and brighter cymbal sound....and the tom sound depends on the room . both are great mics .

[lasso]

Originally Posted by heisleyamor

anyone? I know people have some opinions. I need a nice overhead sound and it would nice to have a nice acoustic sound too. My Samson C02s aren't cutting it lately. Need something under 500 dollars. Thanks!

I tried a pair of matched Oktavas today as OH's and I'm very pleased with what I hear. I'm usually using a pair of c414's but the Oktavas are way cooler. Never looking back. Transients and low end is really nice. Havn'y tried them on acoustic yet.

Get a pair!

[heisleyamor]

this summer I'm in a pretty big room with pretty high ceilings with rafters. During the year I'm going to be leaving in my finished attic with about 7' ceilings.

[heisleyamor]

I like having a room sound but having a decent snare crack/attack at the same time. I also don't like to have really extended high end with that harsh digital sound. I just like clarity for cymbals with a nice/smooth top end but with some nice lowend at the same time.

[reflixtinian]

By the way, i was talking about the AT4050's my brain created a microphone in your first post...sorry about that ....gee...is hapenning while i'm not sleeping....i must see the doctor.

[Nu-tra]

I prefer the atm450's. I have owned both. If your gonna get the oktavas get them modded by Michael Joly... You can get them already modded from him at his web.

Originally Posted by heisleyamor

I like having a room sound but having a decent snare crack/attack at the same time. I also don't like to have really extended high end with that harsh digital sound. I just like clarity for cymbals with a nice/smooth top end but with some nice lowend at the same time.

[heisleyamor]

which of the 2 pairs of mics will give you a nice/full guitar sound also?

[CrankyRayHanky]

oktavas have given me some cool acoustic guitar results, as well as toms

[jeff4h]

I use oktavas moded by Mike Joley with the hyper cardiod capsules and Im well pleased. Ive gotten some good resluts on acoustic guitar to

[mltamisin]

I prefer the modded Octava's on OH as well. The ATM450 sounds killer on snare shell paired with a 57 type on top.

[heisleyamor]

Is it ok that I get 2 different Oktava MK-012 from 2 different areas? or do I need to get a matched pair? It would be cheaper for me to get 2 single ones off of ebay.

[heisleyamor]

Stereo Pair Oktava MK-012 MC-012 MK012 MC012 Microphone - eBay (item 150254611139 end time Jun-05-08 14:57:00 PDT)

I can't tell if that is for 2 mk-012, 2 mc-012, 1 mk-012 or 1 mc-012.

anyone?

should i bid on this?

[Fabi]

I love my Oktavas for both: OH and Acoustic !!

You definetely should get a matched pair (if you decide you want the oktavas after all) with cardioid and omni capsules.

Maby the figure of 8 capsule, too, though I don´t know if its awailable already??? The website is very confusing!

This way you can do all kinds of stereo micing.

There is also other capsules for them (even third party) but I havent heard any jet. Could be nice though

I think you will always find a good use for them, even if you stock up a lot.

Hope that helps
F

[miqer]

+1 on loving the mk012's as overheads.

Sometimes I use one beyerdynamic ribbon now. Smoother. The oktava's are very real. If your cymbles have a bit of a nasty ring, they will capture it. A distant ribbon in a tube pre can be less like reallity, but nicer in a vintage recording kind of way... bla bla.

About the crack in the snare. It needs to be there in the first place (in the snare) and then the overheads can catch it. If you want to fake it, a dynamic mic, closer to the snare loud on tape (or distorted somewhat alike) will get you that crack easy.

[kenny_popper]

Originally Posted by heisleyamor

Is it ok that I get 2 different Oktava MK-012 from 2 different areas? or do I need to get a matched pair? It would be cheaper for me to get 2 single ones off of ebay.

Not really...You should test them before you buy them. I bought a pair about 5 years ago and one of them was terrible. it made intermittent pops and plosives. I'd like to reserch this MOD guy. I am generally pleased with Octava.

Best,

Kenny