Guitarist in the Control Room..Amp in the Live Room question.

Noize919 · 2nd June 2008

How do you guys do this?

A really long instrument cable running through the wall?

stagefright13 · 2nd June 2008

I use a wireless for that. Supposedly quieter than a cord. But hey that's just me. And the rack has a volume knob that goes a little bit higher than the straight guitar. The slight extra gain helps on tube amps.

yeloocproducer · 2nd June 2008

2 Little labs PCPs, or an Alan Smart DI/ line driver. It does change the sound just a bit though, and of course you don't get the pickup/ amp interaction. Better yet is keeping the amp head in the control room and running a long speaker cable.

Renegade Prod · 2nd June 2008

Yeah keeping the head in the control is definitely ideal. You can make any amp alterations from the same room while you/guitarist is playing. Keep the distance of the speaker cable to an absolute minimum as your noise flaw will begin from 2m onwards and get worse and worse

Jules · 2nd June 2008

Best is a really thick speaker cable.. Head in Control Room

But..

...you cant do that with a combo.. (so for that us have to use instrument cable and thats where some of the long run signal 'helpers' mentioned above can come in very handy..)

picksail · 2nd June 2008

I have a snake in the tracking room with a few "cue sends/returns". The snake is wired into the patch bay in the control room. I patch a guitar cable from the amp's input into the snake, which is just a couple of feet from the amp.

In the control room I just plug directly into the corresponding cue send in the patch bay.

Gerax · 2nd June 2008

We usually keep heads in the CR and speakers in the live room; I had a patch panel built so that I can plug a speaker cable (or two) into a speakon socket and have it couming out in the live room going straight to the speaker cabinet. Doors can be locked for maximum isolation. Same with combos: the guitar cable gets plugged into a line in socket in the wall and that comes out in the live room. It's only a few cm more of very high quality cable and the signal isn't degraded at all.

octatonic · 2nd June 2008

I do the 'head in the control room' with hugely thick speaker cable.
So thick that it almost cannot it inside a 1/4 jack sleeve.

With regards to combo's- most have a speaker out.
I have a couple of marshall cabs that I can quickly take the back off to get an open back sound.

Mike Brown · 2nd June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by octatonic

I do the 'head in the control room' with hugely thick speaker cable.
So thick that it almost cannot it inside a 1/4 jack sleeve.

With regards to combo's- most have a speaker out.
I have a couple of marshall cabs that I can quickly take the back off to get an open back sound.

This is the most common way I've seen it done and is the method I use.

You can actually buy chubby 1/4 jack sleeves so you can get even thicker cables! Bwhahahaha hah hah... oh dear god.

TornadoTed · 2nd June 2008

I got the thickest cable I could find. I put Speakon wall plates in the booths, live room and the studio so no-one can accidently use the wrong cables. I used the same thick cable to make Speakon to jack leads.

If it's a combo I use a Little Labs STD

nosebleedaudio · 3rd June 2008

I prefer a DI pre in the CTR and reamp box next to the amp.
That way you can split the signal with NO extra loading on the Gtr.

Pasta4lnch · 3rd June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by octatonic

With regards to combo's- most have a speaker out.
I have a couple of marshall cabs that I can quickly take the back off to get an open back sound.

+1

I even ripped the controls out of my Harlequin and built a small box so I could keep it in the control room . . .

Musiclab · 3rd June 2008

I use 12 gauge speaker wire, and the head in the control room, I have a panel that patches in my control room and a bunch of different cabinets so even with a combo the head is in the control room

Bad Khan · 4th June 2008

We use the Radial SGI:

Radial Press Release – SGI Studio Guitar Interface

Love it!

2nd June 2008	#1
Noize919 Gear nut Join Date: May 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 141 Thread Starter	Guitarist in the Control Room..Amp in the Live Room question. How do you guys do this? A really long instrument cable running through the wall?

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stagefright13 Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,187	I use a wireless for that. Supposedly quieter than a cord. But hey that's just me. And the rack has a volume knob that goes a little bit higher than the straight guitar. The slight extra gain helps on tube amps. __________________ Stagefrightrecords.com

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Renegade Prod Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gold Coast / NYC Posts: 456	Yeah keeping the head in the control is definitely ideal. You can make any amp alterations from the same room while you/guitarist is playing. Keep the distance of the speaker cable to an absolute minimum as your noise flaw will begin from 2m onwards and get worse and worse __________________ Kindest Regards, Tyse Lee, Loose Stones. Producer / Engineer / Noise Maker www.myspace.com/tyselee www.myspace.com/loosestones

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Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A Yank in London, UK Posts: 17,356 1 Review written	Best is a really thick speaker cable.. Head in Control Room But.. ...you cant do that with a combo.. (so for that us have to use instrument cable and thats where some of the long run signal 'helpers' mentioned above can come in very handy..) __________________ Jules Add your reviews to the new reviews area! Gearslutz on Facebook Follow my GS picks on Twitter

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picksail Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 3,632	I have a snake in the tracking room with a few "cue sends/returns". The snake is wired into the patch bay in the control room. I patch a guitar cable from the amp's input into the snake, which is just a couple of feet from the amp. In the control room I just plug directly into the corresponding cue send in the patch bay. __________________ Stewart Cararas IMDB Discogs Myspace Facebook Studio Twitter _________________________________ The new is necessarily abstract - Rudolf Borchadt

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yeloocproducer Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: los angeles Posts: 1,731	2 Little labs PCPs, or an Alan Smart DI/ line driver. It does change the sound just a bit though, and of course you don't get the pickup/ amp interaction. Better yet is keeping the amp head in the control room and running a long speaker cable.

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Gerax Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Modena, Italy Posts: 619	We usually keep heads in the CR and speakers in the live room; I had a patch panel built so that I can plug a speaker cable (or two) into a speakon socket and have it couming out in the live room going straight to the speaker cabinet. Doors can be locked for maximum isolation. Same with combos: the guitar cable gets plugged into a line in socket in the wall and that comes out in the live room. It's only a few cm more of very high quality cable and the signal isn't degraded at all. __________________ Lorenzo Gerace L'Acquario Recording & Post Mobile Recording, Editing, Mixing Prato (PO) Italy info@acquariorecording.it http://www.acquariorecording.it

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octatonic Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 5,429	I do the 'head in the control room' with hugely thick speaker cable. So thick that it almost cannot it inside a 1/4 jack sleeve. With regards to combo's- most have a speaker out. I have a couple of marshall cabs that I can quickly take the back off to get an open back sound. __________________ Regards, Jim Richmond "I don't go to mythical places with strange men." Douglas Adams

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TornadoTed Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 1,409	I got the thickest cable I could find. I put Speakon wall plates in the booths, live room and the studio so no-one can accidently use the wrong cables. I used the same thick cable to make Speakon to jack leads. If it's a combo I use a Little Labs STD __________________ Ed Lewis Giant Wafer Studios, UK www.giantwafer.com

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nosebleedaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL USA Posts: 3,547	I prefer a DI pre in the CTR and reamp box next to the amp. That way you can split the signal with NO extra loading on the Gtr. __________________ Mike Keith www.jmkaudio.com

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Musiclab Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Elmont NY Posts: 6,030 3 Reviews written	I use 12 gauge speaker wire, and the head in the control room, I have a panel that patches in my control room and a bunch of different cabinets so even with a combo the head is in the control room __________________ Lou Gimenez www.musiclabnyc.com

4th June 2008	#14
Bad Khan Gear nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 84	We use the Radial SGI: Radial Press Release – SGI Studio Guitar Interface Love it!

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