Difference between "Long frame patch cables(military)" and a regular guitar cable?

Mesa4x12er · 1st June 2008

What is the difference? Anyone know?

Thanks!

Raw-Tracks · 1st June 2008

Long Frame patchbay connectors are 2 conductor and a shield. Guitar type 1/4" are just 1 conductor and a shield. The shape of the tip is slightly different between them as well.

Here are a couple of Switchcraft links that might help:

1/4" Longframe:
Switchcraft

1/4" Tip/Sleeve (guitar) and 1/4" TRS (stereo or balanced audio):
Switchcraft

nosebleedaudio · 1st June 2008

If your referring to the standard 1/4" tip,ring sleeve then all you have to do is compare them side by side, the spacing between tip and ring are different.
Standard 1/4" will work but not ideal, #482.
Military can be a different size

travisbrown · 1st June 2008

Most of the time you can use them interchangeably. Sometimes you can't. More often than not you can use a Type 2 connector for Type 1 applications. Not so often the other way around.

I'm not sure why we ended up with two variants of the same connector. Patent or licensing, maybe?

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Mesa4x12er Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 604 Thread Starter	Difference between "Long frame patch cables(military)" and a regular guitar cable? What is the difference? Anyone know? Thanks!

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Raw-Tracks Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 655	Long Frame patchbay connectors are 2 conductor and a shield. Guitar type 1/4" are just 1 conductor and a shield. The shape of the tip is slightly different between them as well. Here are a couple of Switchcraft links that might help: 1/4" Longframe: Switchcraft 1/4" Tip/Sleeve (guitar) and 1/4" TRS (stereo or balanced audio): Switchcraft __________________ Eric Practice Your Mixing Skills! Mix Our Tracks in Your DAW! www.Raw-Tracks.com

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nosebleedaudio Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL USA Posts: 3,703	If your referring to the standard 1/4" tip,ring sleeve then all you have to do is compare them side by side, the spacing between tip and ring are different. Standard 1/4" will work but not ideal, #482. Military can be a different size __________________ Michael Keith www.jmkaudio.com

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travisbrown Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,140 9 Reviews written	Most of the time you can use them interchangeably. Sometimes you can't. More often than not you can use a Type 2 connector for Type 1 applications. Not so often the other way around. I'm not sure why we ended up with two variants of the same connector. Patent or licensing, maybe? __________________ I'm not a producer, but I play one on Gearslutz.com