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Old 16th August 2004, 11:38 PM   #1
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R&B Vocal Doubling

I don't know if this has been asked before, so here goes.

I'm particularly fascinated with r&B vocal doublings, especially with Justin Timberlake's. I was wondering Dave, what's your technique on making great doublings, besides having a great singer to work with.

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Old 17th August 2004, 12:32 AM   #2
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I'm not Dave, but there's some info here .
I guess once your aware of the differen't vocal layers it shouldn't be too hard to decipher what's going on in Justin Timberlake's records.
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Old 17th August 2004, 04:02 PM   #3
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Very good link...I'm loving this guest forum!
Regarding the article referring to the multitracking of vocals (4 for main note, 4 for upper and lower harmony, etc etc) this is in reference to the Chorus right? Because for the verses of most of usher's latest album, for the life of me I cannot hear more than one vocal track and then the adlibs and some harmonies on key words...unless dude has PERFECT timing and can sing it the exact same way each time....
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Old 17th August 2004, 05:36 PM   #4
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how many layers do most engineers typically layer lead vocals? I guess this technique is commonly reffered to as overdubbing or is that completely different?
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Old 17th August 2004, 05:41 PM   #5
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cool! thanks for the link Strauss.
Oh yeah, it might be overdubbing as well. Any of you guys have your own technique?
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Old 17th August 2004, 06:04 PM   #6
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...unless dude has PERFECT timing and can sing it the exact same way each time....
I sometimes use vocalign to tighten things up.
If Vocalign isn't available you can also do it by hand with the time-compression handler in PT or Nuendo.
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Old 17th August 2004, 06:20 PM   #7
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Usher's latest album is just a single vocal in most of the verses. I doubt those were doubled and vocal-aligned. There is the typical layering stuff in the choruses and key words, but it sounds like single vocal passes on most of the verses.
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Old 17th August 2004, 06:45 PM   #8
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Well, I haven't heard all of that record, but on the Usher song "Yeah," there is alot of layering going on, even in the verses.

For example, I will use caps to illustrate the harmonized parts...

"....from ONE to TEN, SHE'S A CERTIFIED TWENTY..."

lot's of doubling/harmonizing even in the verses... maybe it's different for the other songs.
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Well, I haven't heard all of that record, but on the Usher song "Yeah," there is alot of layering going on, even in the verses.
... lot's of doubling/harmonizing even in the verses... maybe it's different for the other songs.
You're right on that song, which is why I was cautious to use "most verses" in my response. Much of the rest of the record is very different from that song in that the verses are tracked as a single vocal with layered accents every now and again and in the chorus sections.
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Old 17th August 2004, 10:32 PM   #10
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I sometimes use vocalign to tighten things up.
If Vocalign isn't available you can also do it by hand with the time-compression handler in PT or Nuendo.
oh cool! thanks!
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Old 19th August 2004, 09:12 AM   #11
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Dave,
I'm also impressed on your work with Jon B. The vocal processing and the music is just smooooth.
Wondering what was the chain that you used on Jon B, your vocal overdubs/doubling techniques.
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