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Old 11th April 2008   #1
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A good EQ quote you guys should use.

I was explaining my EQ tricks to some people today.. And I thought something clever of it..


"EQ'ing is Like Make Up...

It should only be used to make a Pretty girl prettier...

NOT to make an ugly girl pretty."

What do you guys think?? Clever no?
Right away i think they got an idea why boosting a frequency 12dB is WTF!?!?dfegad
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Do what you gotta do.

If something sounds best with a frequency boosted 12 db, whats the problem?

When it comes to EQing, the only rule is there are no set rules. Just do what sounds good!
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I thought making an ugly girl pretty was what beer was for.
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Do what you gotta do.

If something sounds best with a frequency boosted 12 db, whats the problem?

When it comes to EQing, the only rule is there are no set rules. Just do what sounds good!

Boosting that much will drastically affect your phase relationship...and instead of boosting 12dB... Attenuate everything else but what you want to accentuate.. then boost the overal level. This is much more practical...

Unless its Pre tape.. then your blue to boost all you want.
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Eq is just another effect. Have you seen the response of the tone controls on guitar amps?



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if you can make an ugly girl pretty using makeup, she isn't ugly.

if it just makes her less ugly, that seems okay too.

maybe you want to use the makeup to play up the ugliness.

they're just sounds, it's only art.

rules are for intersections.


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Attenuate everything else but what you want to accentuate.. then boost the overal level. This is much more practical...
I think you're stirring...
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Whats the eq equivalent to a paper bag then?
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Whats the eq equivalent to a paper bag then?
MUTE!
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Boosting that much will drastically affect your phase relationship...and instead of boosting 12dB... Attenuate everything else but what you want to accentuate.. then boost the overal level. This is much more practical...
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When you use a passive EQ that's actually the way it works . It filters other frequencies then amplifies the volume . Any EQ is made by virtue of phase shifting the frequency you're operating . So whatever you do you are phase shifting, exept on phaselinear digital EQ .


Anyway the rule is to have no rule .If it sounds good it's good .
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The best quote ever and so so true!!
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Here's the only rule I use when it comes to audio:

If it sounds good, it IS good.

If that means I have to put 2 EQ's in series and crank or slash to make it sound the way I want and it gives me the result I'm looking for, so be it.

This especially holds true in cases when you're hired to be the mixer for a project, and you have no control whatsoever on the quality of the tracks you're given to mix. You do what you gotta do. Period.
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Ugly girls are easier to get in the first place.
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With recording you should try to only record what sounds good and not rely on EQ as a fix.

i'm gonna say that the most important thing to me is to capture what *feels* good. getting it to sound good is a bonus.

depending on the music and the source, it may not be possible to get it sounding good. hell, it may not even be desirable.


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Boosting that much will drastically affect your phase relationship...and instead of boosting 12dB... Attenuate everything else but what you want to accentuate.. then boost the overal level. This is much more practical...
More practical? How is adding phase shift at all other frequencies more practical than adding phase shift at one set of frequencies?

There's a theory about cutting always being better than boosting, and it's just not true. It's better to determine which approach will get you to the intended sonic destination with the least amount of collateral damage.


Oh, and I like the analogy.
But man, as long as it ends up pretty, nobody cares what you started with.
Perhaps instead it should be "All girls are pretty. Some just need more makeup than others."
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sometimes, in the movies, they use makeup to make a pretty girl ugly, or to look like something entirely different...
so i guess the analogy would also work in that repect
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Good EQ quote from Steven Slate:

"Don't be a pussy with EQ"
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Good EQ quote from Steven Slate:

"Don't be a pussy with EQ"
I like that quote much better.

One should never be afraid to do what they need to do to get the sound they want. Being "afraid" of using a certain tool beyond what might be considered "average" range will only serve to limit your possibilities.

I've often found that I got the sound I was looking for by going much further than my brain said I should with EQ or compression, but my ears said, oh yeah, that's the ticket. thumbsup
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Boosting that much will drastically affect your phase relationship...and instead of boosting 12dB... Attenuate everything else but what you want to accentuate.. then boost the overal level. This is much more practical...

Unless its Pre tape.. then your blue to boost all you want.
I agree but what is "practical" doesn't always sound the best.

Audio is audio. We hear it. Its auditory art. Sometimes I believe people get way too wrapped up in numbers and frequencies and what's the sure fire way to do this and that and blah blah blah...

Close your eyes and twist those damn knobs or move your mouse until it sounds good... Whether it's a 1.5 db cut at 500 hz or an 8 db boost at 8.5 k, I couldn't care less!

I know part of being an engineer is technical listening, but have you ever heard a customer/client say, "Man that phase relationship blows donkey shlong on a Wednesday afternoon."? Meh......
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