Convertor question ( not about sound !!)

Jam · 10th August 2004, 09:25 AM

Hi People

I'm probably approaching this from the wrong end. But I am designing a rig for a high end writing/demo room. G5 mac and Logic are a given what I am looking for is two ch of A/D 16 ch of D/A. We only need two ins as multitrack recording will be done elsewhere 16 outs are to go to a Folcrom or Dangerous. My initial thought was an Apogee DA16X but I can't see how you could add just two channels of A/D. PCI slots are at a premium as we want a couple of powercores as well. Anyone have any thoughts what we should look at ?

Jam

Brian Middleton · 10th August 2004, 04:39 PM

How about the Metric Halo ULN-2? It's a 2-channel Firewire unit with mic pres, audio quality is supposed to be outstanding...$1000 street.

Jam · 11th August 2004, 08:09 AM

Thanks Brian

But I need two in sixteen out. So the Metric is out

Jam

Brian Middleton · 11th August 2004, 06:30 PM

I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying you need the two in and sixteen out to be all in one unit? That might be hard to find. Why can't it be one box for the two in and one for the sixteen out?

Jam · 12th August 2004, 08:19 AM

No its find for it to be two boxes ( or three or four ) but it's likely they will be from the same manufacturer as Logic can only adress one core audio driver at once.

Jam

edyer · 12th August 2004, 04:01 PM

I don't know if this helps but you might want to look at the rme 9652 card for an interface which would take up 2 pci slots. you can plug in 3 units via lightpipe +spdif and midi or the 9632 which uses only one pci slot but has 2 lightpipe connections + spdif. I use the 9652 + lucid converters and it's stable and sounds great. It also allows you to change converters if needed in the future. I'm mixing through a desk which sounds similar to what you want to do with the folcrom.

logichead · 12th August 2004, 04:47 PM

The RME card is great, with one caveat - the newer versions require 2 pci slots for all i/o, which may cramp your system if you use additional pci peripherals (UAD-1, etc.) I think there is a version with just the main pci card, but fewer channels of i/o. The older discontinued version also had 2 cards, but the second one could be set up to dangle outside of your computer and still function. Scary looking, but it worked on G4s, might be a different situation on G5s. Used cards are available on line from time to time.

Also, the Apogee Rosetta 200 is probably due to be released soon. It also has 2 channel of da. I'd also suggest the 800 - six more channels for only another grand. Depending on your summing situation, 24 channels out might come in handy.

I think that whatever the ad is will be your clock source (the da16x syncs to incoming signal I THINK! and can't serve as a wc master), so this is not a good place to skimp.

Maybe Max will chime in...

Best....H

tele_player · 12th August 2004, 07:42 PM

How about two Metric Halo 2882? Add an RNP if you need more mic gain.

subspace · 13th August 2004, 01:12 AM

The Apogee DA16X with the firewire X-card option and v.2.0 software will offer 16 AES/EBU inputs along with the 16 analog outputs.
Add a Lavry Blue 4496 with 2 channels of A/D feeding the first two AES inputs, then try each as word clock master and tell us who wins...
HTH

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10th August 2004, 09:25 AM	#1
Jam Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South East England Posts: 843	Convertor question ( not about sound !!) Hi People I'm probably approaching this from the wrong end. But I am designing a rig for a high end writing/demo room. G5 mac and Logic are a given what I am looking for is two ch of A/D 16 ch of D/A. We only need two ins as multitrack recording will be done elsewhere 16 outs are to go to a Folcrom or Dangerous. My initial thought was an Apogee DA16X but I can't see how you could add just two channels of A/D. PCI slots are at a premium as we want a couple of powercores as well. Anyone have any thoughts what we should look at ? Jam

13th August 2004, 01:12 AM	#9
subspace Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Too sun Posts: 556	The Apogee DA16X with the firewire X-card option and v.2.0 software will offer 16 AES/EBU inputs along with the 16 analog outputs. Add a Lavry Blue 4496 with 2 channels of A/D feeding the first two AES inputs, then try each as word clock master and tell us who wins... HTH __________________ "If you never did, you should. These things are fun and fun is good."

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10th August 2004, 04:39 PM	#2
Brian Middleton Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dorchester, Mass., USA Posts: 334	How about the Metric Halo ULN-2? It's a 2-channel Firewire unit with mic pres, audio quality is supposed to be outstanding...$1000 street.

11th August 2004, 08:09 AM	#3
Jam Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South East England Posts: 843	Thanks Brian But I need two in sixteen out. So the Metric is out Jam

11th August 2004, 06:30 PM	#4
Brian Middleton Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dorchester, Mass., USA Posts: 334	I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying you need the two in and sixteen out to be all in one unit? That might be hard to find. Why can't it be one box for the two in and one for the sixteen out?

12th August 2004, 08:19 AM	#5
Jam Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South East England Posts: 843	No its find for it to be two boxes ( or three or four ) but it's likely they will be from the same manufacturer as Logic can only adress one core audio driver at once. Jam

12th August 2004, 04:01 PM	#6
edyer Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: OVER HERE !!! Posts: 435	I don't know if this helps but you might want to look at the rme 9652 card for an interface which would take up 2 pci slots. you can plug in 3 units via lightpipe +spdif and midi or the 9632 which uses only one pci slot but has 2 lightpipe connections + spdif. I use the 9652 + lucid converters and it's stable and sounds great. It also allows you to change converters if needed in the future. I'm mixing through a desk which sounds similar to what you want to do with the folcrom.

12th August 2004, 04:47 PM	#7
logichead Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Culver City Posts: 322	The RME card is great, with one caveat - the newer versions require 2 pci slots for all i/o, which may cramp your system if you use additional pci peripherals (UAD-1, etc.) I think there is a version with just the main pci card, but fewer channels of i/o. The older discontinued version also had 2 cards, but the second one could be set up to dangle outside of your computer and still function. Scary looking, but it worked on G4s, might be a different situation on G5s. Used cards are available on line from time to time. Also, the Apogee Rosetta 200 is probably due to be released soon. It also has 2 channel of da. I'd also suggest the 800 - six more channels for only another grand. Depending on your summing situation, 24 channels out might come in handy. I think that whatever the ad is will be your clock source (the da16x syncs to incoming signal I THINK! and can't serve as a wc master), so this is not a good place to skimp. Maybe Max will chime in... Best....H

12th August 2004, 07:42 PM	#8
tele_player Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 81	How about two Metric Halo 2882? Add an RNP if you need more mic gain.