Music Collaboration

[TheNetStudio]

How many folks are doing Music Collaboration over the Internet?

Are you using any special Web sites/Collab. tools, or just FTP?

What features do you like best in the Collab. sites you use?

What would you add to the perfect Internet Music Collab. System?

Do you exchange tracks professionally, or just for fun?

Have you done any projects that were mostly over the Internet?

[dwlb]

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

Are you using any special Web sites/Collab. tools, or just FTP?

Dragging files to/from a .mac folder online.

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

What features do you like best in the Collab. sites you use?

n/a

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

What would you add to the perfect Internet Music Collab. System?

A "perfect" system? I dunno, perhaps the recording software could be holsted and run from the site, so the session is identical to whoever is using it and updated in one place, rather than a version of the session in location A that's not up-to-date with the session in location B but is being worked on anyway...perhaps esession already does this, I don't know.

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

Do you exchange tracks professionally, or just for fun?

Both.

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

Have you done any projects that were mostly over the Internet?

Several.

[dj_who]

i think internet collaboration is a great thing.

i once did a song with an old band member who lives 120 miles away. i uploaded all the track wav files to a file hosting site. he put them into his daw, added stuff, then did the same so i can download them into my daw.

it was cool...especially since i hate being in the same room with that jerkoff

[Mike Brown]

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

How many folks are doing Music Collaboration over the Internet?

Are you using any special Web sites/Collab. tools, or just FTP?

Digidelivery

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

What features do you like best in the Collab. sites you use?

Easy/quick to upload/download.

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

What would you add to the perfect Internet Music Collab. System?

Not sure

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

Do you exchange tracks professionally, or just for fun?

Both

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

Have you done any projects that were mostly over the Internet?

Have been doing a lot of projects where I'll get the song and I record the basics (drums and bass) and I send it back lately...

[TheNetStudio]

Originally Posted by Mayor999

Digidelivery

Easy/quick to upload/download.

Agreed. Very important!

[Sid Viscous]

That's where flac and ape come in.

[TheNetStudio]

Originally Posted by Sid Viscous

That's where flac and ape come in.

Both look great, as well as WavPack - but I haven't seen widespread support for them. I'm not sure why, because they are all very desirable since they are lossless.

[Arcana]

I have done more internet collaborations than real life collaborations

On my latest project I've been working with people from Japan, UK, Germany and Switzerland, but I must admit I don't think there's many good collab websites. Digitalmusician.net is the only one I've found with a few people on it and collaborationcentral seems to have closed down???

Esession was supposed to have a "lite" site which looked promising but I can't seem to find it now.

[TheNetStudio]

Originally Posted by Arcana

I have done more internet collaborations than real life collaborations

On my latest project I've been working with people from Japan, UK, Germany and Switzerland, but I must admit I don't think there's many good collab websites. Digitalmusician.net is the only one I've found with a few people on it and collaborationcentral seems to have closed down???

Esession was supposed to have a "lite" site which looked promising but I can't seem to find it now.

There are quite a few very good sites that have sprung up in the last few years. I am partial to my site - TheNetStudio.com - but Kompoz.com and Indabamusic.com look great too. And Mixerman has a yearly collab extravaganza called CAPE that puts out some incredible music. The CAPE event does not provide an actual "system" for collaborators - but CAPE does provide the connections of musicians, songwriters, mixers, and producers, and a private forum for each song. In the last CAPE, the team I was on used TheNetStudio.com for the actual collaboration and it really helped me to figure out what was useful and what was not for Internet music collaboration.

[essessell]

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

How many folks are doing Music Collaboration over the Internet?

not so far

Are you using any special Web sites/Collab. tools, or just FTP?

I thought it might be of interest to those that are collaborating that In Reaper.. there is a plug called ReaNINjam that lets you jam over the internet. I think this could be a great tool for coming up with ideas in a live situation when collaborating. The sound isn't horrible and it works. Threre's a chat window but with a mic you could talk live. hmm . could save on phone bills too.

What features do you like best in the Collab. sites you use?

I use Reaper for the reasons i stated above

What would you add to the perfect Internet Music Collab. System?

an FTP plug to send files without leaving your mixer.

Do you exchange tracks professionally, or just for fun?

All fun for now

Have you done any projects that were mostly over the Internet?

Nope

[Arcana]

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

There are quite a few very good sites that have sprung up in the last few years. I am partial to my site - TheNetStudio.com - but Kompoz.com and Indabamusic.com look great too. And Mixerman has a yearly collab extravaganza called CAPE that puts out some incredible music. The CAPE event does not provide an actual "system" for collaborators - but CAPE does provide the connections of musicians, songwriters, mixers, and producers, and a private forum for each song. In the last CAPE, the team I was on used TheNetStudio.com for the actual collaboration and it really helped me to figure out what was useful and what was not for Internet music collaboration.

Thanks. I wasn't sure where to find Mixerman (on the womb perhaps?) but the others all lacked the one thing I'm looking for.....loads of traffic and people. They might be ok if you are looking for guitarist for a Rock song, as there's a gazillion of those out there, but when you are looking for someone who can eg. play the Duduk or a celtic fiddler for a Techno track or a vocalist along the lines of Lisa Gerrard you are running out of options very quickly.
I'm not really bothered about systems to make collaboration easier. As long as they can load a wav file in a sequencer and record a wav file themselves that's fine by me.

[Mixerman]

Originally Posted by Arcana

Thanks. I wasn't sure where to find Mixerman (on the womb perhaps?) but the others all lacked the one thing I'm looking for.....loads of traffic and people. They might be ok if you are looking for guitarist for a Rock song, as there's a gazillion of those out there, but when you are looking for someone who can eg. play the Duduk or a celtic fiddler for a Techno track or a vocalist along the lines of Lisa Gerrard you are running out of options very quickly.
I'm not really bothered about systems to make collaboration easier. As long as they can load a wav file in a sequencer and record a wav file themselves that's fine by me.

I can be found by typing Mixerman into Google (among other more obvious ways now that I've responded).

Enjoy,

Mixerman

[Arcana]

Originally Posted by Mixerman

I can be found by typing Mixerman into Google (among other more obvious ways now that I've responded).

Enjoy,

Mixerman

Hehe. Yeah, I guess I found you now.
Again, I can only see 17 collabs started in 2008. That's not even 2 a week.
Your music business forum is quite good though . Actually, a collab partner of mine (Ambo) posted a song of ours last year and got some quality feedback from Aardvark (I think) so there's definitely some good sides to your forum.

As I mentioned before Digitalmusician.net is the only one I've found where there's actually a few people - 3000 of them where you can search on their skills, influences etc.

[TheNetStudio]

Originally Posted by Arcana

Hehe. Yeah, I guess I found you now.
Again, I can only see 17 collabs started in 2008. That's not even 2 a week.

Arcana...

Don't let that number fool you... Give a listen to the actual finished songs...

The quality of the songs, musicianship, and mixing is pretty incredible. Especially since many of these people have never actually met each other in person. There is no standard DAW or even standard platform for CAPE. It's pretty amazing how fantastic a lot of the songs turned out. And the whole process just keeps improving.

[Arcana]

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

Arcana...

Don't let that number fool you... Give a listen to the actual finished songs...

The quality of the songs, musicianship, and mixing is pretty incredible. Especially since many of these people have never actually met each other in person. There is no standard DAW or even standard platform for CAPE. It's pretty amazing how fantastic a lot of the songs turned out. And the whole process just keeps improving.

I'll have a listen later, but quality alone is not enough for me. I mean it's great that there is some talented people out there who lives in different continents and can still collaborate. It eliminates the need for joining a band I suppose.

I'm however, looking for some very specialised instrumentalists/vocalists, or at least the kind which is not that common on the internet.

[tonymission]

i work too fast to collab remotely ... if i lose that instant vibe, my ADD prevents me from being much of a contributor. but when im innit, i go nonstop til it's done.

[TheNetStudio]

Originally Posted by Arcana

I'm however, looking for some very specialised instrumentalists/vocalists, or at least the kind which is not that common on the internet.

Interesting...

So... Would you say you are more interested in a musician's registry kind of thing?

[Arcana]

Originally Posted by TheNetStudio

Interesting...

So... Would you say you are more interested in a musician's registry kind of thing?

Hmmm.... never thought of it that way but yes, that's probably right.

I suppose most collabs goes like this: "I've just written a song (vocals), who wants to play drums and guitar on top of it?", where as mine more goes like this "sorry, no vocal, don't need drums, cause I've already programmed them, and don't want guitar. Now is there any native japanese people around here who can play shakuhachi on top of my Breakbeat track?".

You can imagine that the shakuhachi players are not gonna be fighting to get to collab....firstly cause there's probably very (VERY) few of them and secondly cause they most likely don't like Breakbeat at all.

So, yes I am not too bothered about collab features...like eg. Digitalmusician have this plugin that helps you jam - with video so you can see each other and chat. But it's certainly a good feature, just not for me.

As I mentioned before, Collaboration central had some good forums with quite a bit of traffic, too bad it seems to have closed down now

[fuzzface777]

I just a youtube of some talent musicians collab on Where Eagles Dare, and it is remarkable albeit poorly mic'd, poorly mixed, poorly mastered. However the talent is undeniable and I was rockin' along while listening. Crazy vocals, too.