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Old 26th March 2008, 06:03 AM   #1
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Speaker stands.. What r u using?

Hello everyone, i know this may sound ... But I am in need of two sets of monitor/speaker stands for a pair of Event ASP 8s and Adam A7s. The stands will be on a wall to wall carpeted floor. I was planning to purchase Quik Lok's BS-300 but was later informed they are very unstable. Any suggestions? What brand and model are you currently using? How do you like it?
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Old 26th March 2008, 06:29 AM   #2
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Sound Anchors. Big, heavy, ugly, expensive. In other words: perfect.
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Old 26th March 2008, 07:29 AM   #3
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Quik Lok's BS-300 are very unstable.
true, and it is (at least it was) hard to get 2 of the same height (I needed 5)

now I use 2 (sorted out of 10 to get same height) which I also use when doing on site recording, but put sandbags on the feet.

the others are self-made and as blim said: heavy, stable, ugly: perfect
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Sound Anchors. Big, heavy, ugly, expensive. In other words: perfect.
Thats $1000 for two pairs of speaker stands.. No thanks!
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Old 26th March 2008, 12:42 PM   #5
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I built my own with steel tubes filled with sand. Steel is 5x5 (cm). Put a flat metal plate on topo of'em (35x35). Got pads between stands and speakers (JBL LSR28p). Very heavy and stable. Cost me around 50€ for a pair. Sorry but those Sound Anchors are way over priced in my opinion. I have lots of friends who work with metal so it was easy for me to go down the DIY route but Sound Anchors prices make absolutely no sense at all to me.
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Old 26th March 2008, 01:33 PM   #6
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I built my own with steel tubes filled with sand. Steel is 5x5 (cm). Put a flat metal plate on topo of'em (35x35). Got pads between stands and speakers (JBL LSR28p). Very heavy and stable. Cost me around 50€ for a pair. Sorry but those Sound Anchors are way over priced in my opinion. I have lots of friends who work with metal so it was easy for me to go down the DIY route but Sound Anchors prices make absolutely no sense at all to me.
Your DIY approach makes sense. The reason I went with Sound Anchors was because I mix standing up, and Sound Anchors is the only company I'm aware of that makes pro-quality stands that can be custom built for people like me.
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Old 26th March 2008, 01:59 PM   #7
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Your DIY approach makes sense. The reason I went with Sound Anchors was because I mix standing up, and Sound Anchors is the only company I'm aware of that makes pro-quality stands that can be custom built for people like me.
Hey Blim, I understand that and I'm sure Sound Anchors stands are more than fine or there'd be no way to justify those prices. The problem is that I know how much steel costs and when you sit down and make some calculation it doesn't add up to those figures. The stands I built are very close to the Project 4 from SA. Their price is 280USD for a pair. It takes no more than 30 minutes to weld them, say 30 minutes for paiting (and then you just have to let'em dry). Steel for these products might be no more than 30 to 40USD. So where in the hell that 289.00USD comes from? To top it all, if you consider shipping charges for such an heavy item, the deal makes no plain sense.

When I look inside my mixer I can fully understand why it cost so much to produce a beast like that, PCBs, ICs, caps, faders, pots, frame, cabling and ENGINEERING on top of it. But with some steel tube stands there's no engineering to speak of or maybe I'm just an asshole with no clue. Anyway, I'm happy with my DIY stand and it seems you're happy with your SA. Everybody's happy. I lost. Better get back to work. Yep.
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Old 26th March 2008, 03:18 PM   #8
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I was about to buy some Sound Anchors and decided to just build these instead.

TNT-Stubby - A DIY Speaker Stand Project on TNT-Audio [English]

I think the total cost for the pair was like $60. I painted them to match the decor in the control room. I used the money I saved on Sound Anchors to buy pair of Primacoustic Recoil Stabilizers and I couldn't be happier.

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Old 26th March 2008, 03:50 PM   #9
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cement blocks, painted black...cheap and effective....
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Old 26th March 2008, 03:56 PM   #10
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Sound Anchors here. These, to be exact: ADJUSTABLE SPEAKER STANDS

Indeed, not too cheap. But they are very heavy and thus, VERY sturdy and stable. I don't have to worry about knocking my monitors to the floor or having to hear the stands resonate. I certainly feel they were a worthy upgrade from the previous QuikLok stands I was using (I believe the very BS300 stands the OP mentioned)...
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Old 26th March 2008, 04:06 PM   #11
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Sound Anchors are worth the price. I have my S3As on them. They are very solid and allow your monitors to sound as they should. They are also adjustable so I can get the monitors where I need them and avoid some nasty comb filtering. If you spent less tham $1000 for monitors then maybe it's not as important to you. With hi end monitors not spending the extra cash to have them seated on a solid source doesn't make sense. My little NHT M-00s sit on some $99 stands I bought at GC. Fill them with sand and they're o.k. I wouldn't set my Adams on them though.

If you want a solid yet cheap alternative you could try cinder blocks stacked covered with blak fabric.
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Old 26th March 2008, 07:54 PM   #12
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I built my own with steel tubes filled with sand. Steel is 5x5 (cm). Put a flat metal plate on topo of'em (35x35). Got pads between stands and speakers (JBL LSR28p). Very heavy and stable. Cost me around 50€ for a pair. Sorry but those Sound Anchors are way over priced in my opinion. I have lots of friends who work with metal so it was easy for me to go down the DIY route but Sound Anchors prices make absolutely no sense at all to me.

Cool!

Do you have any pictures of the stands?
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Old 27th March 2008, 12:23 PM   #13
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Cool!

Do you have any pictures of the stands?
Hi Pheonix, I'm heading for the studio in a few minutes. Will try and post a pic later.

Cheers.
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Old 27th March 2008, 01:47 PM   #14
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Greetings.

Cinder blocks, stacked 2 wide and alternating directions for stability. Then have a large sheet of black fabric draped over them. Looks nice and is very functional; not to mention cheap and effective!

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Old 30th March 2008, 10:46 AM   #15
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With stands like the sound anchors, do you have to drill holes in your monitors to mount them? How do you know how much you can drill before breaking something? My monitors (dynaudio bm15a's) are pretty bulky and heavy, and they don't have any holes at the bottom...
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Labored over the same issue when considering my SA3s. The Sound Anchors seemed the best choice. Would have needed additional rail height though...additional expense.
Tried the tubes with the sand idea. Brought the tubes in and dismissed almost immediately. Built wooden stands with tiltable shelf. Came close but aesthetically not the best. Always showed me how much additional metal I would need to purchase on the Sound Anchors.
I opted to suspend the speakers from the ceiling. Rail on the ceiling allows speakers to be moved left/right. Rail above speakers allows spin left/right. Wooden mount on link chain can be tilted up/down. Cleaner, cheaper and more functional for me. I might add that this was the creation of my friend who designed the room. He installed it as well. Materials and labor were significantly less than the Sound Anchors.
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Ahh! Milk crates...nice! Far less than sound anchors.
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Ohhhh-Ohhhh,I know! Use 4 inch pvc pipe glued to flanges and filled with very dense Silica Sand....... Available at all finer hardware stores near you.Oh,don't forget to mount them on some wood bases and,just for good measure,with rubber feet attached to the bottoms.
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Jamz, when seeing suspended speakers like that I always wonder if they don't move every time a low note is being played? Won't that affect phase, or is this an ultra-heavy design?

I've tried the "neoprene mouse-pads under speaker on the meterbridge"-thing and though it improved resonance with the desk it made the low bass muddy (-ier) because of constant 'rocking' of the speaker.




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Jamz, when seeing suspended speakers like that I always wonder if they don't move every time a low note is being played? Won't that affect phase, or is this an ultra-heavy design?



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heavy and sturdy enough. Unless you push them they ain't movin.
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Old 30th March 2008, 01:40 PM   #22
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. I was planning to purchase Quik Lok's BS-300 but was later informed they are very unstable. Any suggestions? What brand and model are you currently using? How do you like it?
I've got my little yamaha msp5s on a dirt cheap pair of Samson stands and they never sounded better or worse.these stands do the job 4 me just nice...for $130 AUD.
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Old 30th March 2008, 02:23 PM   #23
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KrK Rockt 5's on top of a pair of home audio speakers I bought out of white van in front of the grocery store with auralex iso pads in between
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Old 2nd April 2008, 04:07 PM   #24
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Concrete Blocks

I just piled up some concrete blocks for my BM15a. I was going to use 2 block side by side for each layer for added stability but they are fine just piled up singly. I've chopped up a camping mat foam and sandwiched the top 3 blocks with several layers of absorbtion underneath the speaker itself to minimise any transmission. They are ugly as hell though - need covering with something. They cost me less than £20...
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I just ordered myself some ultimate monitor stands for my K+H O300 monitors, i'm still waiting for delivery.

I'm wondering though, is there any point putting Auralex mopads between the monitors and the stands?
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