Gearslutz.com

All Advertisers
Go Back   Gearslutz.com > The Forums > So much gear, so little time!


New Reply New Reply Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 19th March 2008   #1
Lives for gear
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Oslo , Norway
Posts: 520

Thread Starter
Alesis HD24 to Mac Pro via Ethernet?

Is the HD24 compatible with the Mac Pro and OS X 10.4 , I`m talking about transfers via ethernet?

Thanks!

Thomas
ThomasWho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th March 2008   #2
Lives for gear
 
The dman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Illinois
Posts: 1,771

Send a message via Skype™ to The dman
Don't know if you know about this HD24tools

The Ethernet transfer is very very slow.
The dman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th March 2008   #3
Lives for gear
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: West Haven, CT
Posts: 3,012

Send a message via AIM to Steffmo
I think if you use the Fireport and the accompanying software you will accomplish your goal.

Try the ethernet once....you won't do it again.
Steffmo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th March 2008   #4
Lives for gear
 
artbeat77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 542

True.
artbeat77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2008   #5
Lives for gear
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Oslo , Norway
Posts: 520

Thread Starter
Thanks guys , good to know.

I don`t have the HD24 , but I`m looking into it. A deciding factor is how well it integrates with my existing rig (Mac Pro/Logic).

Thomas
ThomasWho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2008   #6
Lives for gear
 
David R.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I left my heart, in...
Posts: 1,863

HD24 works well with a mac, if you use the fireport. Don't mess with the ethernet, it is too slow.
__________________
-David R.

"An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way." - C. Bukowski
David R. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2008   #7
Lives for gear
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Oslo , Norway
Posts: 520

Thread Starter
Quote:
Originally Posted by David R. View Post
HD24 works well with a mac, if you use the fireport. Don't mess with the ethernet, it is too slow.
The Fireport is that hardware "plug" that goes between the HD24 disk and my mac?

Thanks for the help guys!

oh , I was wondering - how many of you have and use the 88/96kHz samplerates? Doesn`t that limit you to 12 tracks?

Thomas
ThomasWho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2008   #8
Lives for gear
 
travisbrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,964

The 10BaseT ethernet on the HD24 is the most ******** thing Alesis has ever done for a company that I think does some pretty innovative stuff. Even at the time 10BaseT was a deprecated protocol - 100BaseT was the standard. They must have got a deal on some surplus controller cards or something. Seriously, 16 hours to transfer 24 tracks of a 5 minute program? If you could upgrade or mod to gigabit ethernet, it would be a useful implementation. I bet it wouldn't be too hard to mod for someone who knew what they were doing. Might be as simple as swapping out the NIC if Alesis uses a generic driver.

They hadn't developed the Fireport when the first HD24 came out (which is just a firewire card - you can use any external firewire enclosure with the same chipset as long as you have their FST software), so I guess they needed some transfer method.

The second most ******** thing was not putting a firewire port right in the HD24.

The third most ******** thing is charging so much for the Fireport, which should be about $30. They gave them away free with a HD24 purchase for a while, but not when I bought mine.
__________________
I'm not a producer, but I play one on Gearslutz.com
travisbrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2008   #9
Lives for gear
 
travisbrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,964

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasWho View Post
how many of you have and use the 88/96kHz samplerates? Doesn`t that limit you to 12 tracks?

Thomas
Yes it does. I think it's more to do with a limitation of the lightpipe protocol than the machine itself. Lightpipe needs twice the bandwidth to transfer HD audio, so you get half the channels (smuxed audio). That's pretty standard on any devices that offer 96k and lightpipe. Now you see 8 channel devices with two lightpipe ports, just for this reason - so you can get 8 channels i/o at 96k. New MOTU 828MK3 is a good example.
travisbrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2008   #10
Lives for gear
 
travisbrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,964

Quote:
Originally Posted by The dman View Post
Don't know if you know about this HD24tools
Excellent. I was wondering how long it would take someone to do this.

The HD24 caddies are made by DataBridge, a (used to be) common drive caddy manufacturer. If you can find a DataBridge chassis (Ebay, Computer surplus store?) and mount it in a 5.25 external enclosure, the HD24 caddies fit perfectly. I have two of these chassis.
travisbrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2008   #11
Lives for gear
 
David R.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I left my heart, in...
Posts: 1,863

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasWho View Post
The Fireport is that hardware "plug" that goes between the HD24 disk and my mac?

Thomas
Yup. The most important part is the software which lets your computer read the disk, although I have heard of a third party who has figured this part out and is distributing his own software.
David R. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2008   #12
Lives for gear
 
travisbrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,964

Quote:
Originally Posted by David R. View Post
...although I have heard of a third party who has figured this part out and is distributing his own software.
Yup. See post #2.
travisbrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2008   #13
Lives for gear
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,365

I went through hell trying to use fireport on a macpro. Worked instantly on WinXP. go figure...

-Z-
zakco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2008   #14
Lives for gear
 
loujudson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,616

Quote:
Originally Posted by zakco View Post
I went through hell trying to use fireport on a macpro. Worked instantly on WinXP. go figure...

-Z-
It might be because of Leopard. It is not friendly to some softwares, to put it mildly. FSTConnect and Fireport work flawlessly on my G4s with Tiger!

I love staying a few years behind the current experimental Mac OS. Others get the bleeding edge...

L
loujudson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2008   #15
Lives for gear
 
travisbrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,964

Quote:
Originally Posted by loujudson View Post
It might be because of Leopard. It is not friendly to some softwares, to put it mildly. FSTConnect and Fireport work flawlessly on my G4s with Tiger!

I love staying a few years behind the current experimental Mac OS. Others get the bleeding edge...

L
I had no problem with FSTConnect/Fireport on Leopard. Try HD24tools (post #2) and see if that works for you.
travisbrown is offline   Reply With Quote
New Reply New Reply Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook  Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter  Submit Thread to LinkedIn LinkedIn 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread starter Forum Replies Last Post
Midi over ethernet in mac os 10.3.9 PhilE Music computers 5 9th June 2011 01:09 AM
AD alesis HD24 VS AI 3 musicmixer04 So much gear, so little time! 0 24th May 2006 10:04 AM
Alesis HD24 to Mac transfer Rakmount Music computers 0 22nd April 2005 09:12 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:20 AM.

 
 
Powered by vBulletin®
Gearslutz.com Limited - UK Company Number 7597610.
Registered Office: 35 Ballards Lane, London, N3 1XW.

SEO by vBSEO ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.