Please review 38 second "Traffic" jam

Lee Tyler · 7th December 2002, 09:20 PM

This snippet was recorded using a Kurzweil K2600X synth/workstation with stock programs, a Dell 333Mz P2, and a Turtle Beach Montego soundcard. How does the sound quality and mix come across? Appreciate any comments. Thanks -----LEE

38 second "Traffic" jam

Jay Kahrs · 8th December 2002, 10:00 AM

This site isn't really ment for audio and music reviews. Or, at least I frown on it. But, before I zap this post off what does everyone else think? Personally I try to avoid listening to things on the computer. I have crappy speakers or no speakers connected to my internet computer so judging the quality of anything over them is a crap shoot at best.

Tim L · 8th December 2002, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay Kahrs
This site isn't really ment for audio and music reviews. Or, at least I frown on it. But, before I zap this post off what does everyone else think?...

Although I agree that this sorta' thing doesn't realy belong in the regular forums, perhaps it might be kinda cool to have a "critique zone" for those interested.

Lee Tyler · 8th December 2002, 03:19 PM

Sorry about that, Jay. I was being a slut(z)

I posted in this forum due the high regard I have for Gearslutz. I figured on getting some well rounded opinions. I will bee-have. What do I think about reviews? It's a great idea. I love to "hear" what everyone is up to!

Thanks for considerating the idea of a critique forum, anyhoo. Very kewl smilies, I must say!
Best regards, Lee.

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay Kahrs
This site isn't really ment for audio and music reviews. Or, at least I frown on it. tut But, before I zap this post off what does everyone else think? Personally I try to avoid listening to things on the computer. I have crappy speakers or no speakers connected to my internet computer so judging the quality of anything over them is a crap shoot at best.

C.Lambrechts · 8th December 2002, 04:32 PM

maybe this stuff ask for a future new section on Gearslutz ..... Jules ???

Bob · 8th December 2002, 05:54 PM

Hi all,

Maybe this is indeed not the place to post songs and get opinions on, ... well whatever aspect of it! But I would sure be interested in knowing if there is such a site.

Cheers, Bob.

Lee Tyler · 8th December 2002, 06:11 PM

Well, this forum, and it's obviously well-read and intentioned body of members, seemingly is centered around the "gear" aspect, and the end product of utilizing the "gear", is what eventually,and most importantly, gets to the "ear". And along with the advent of this amazing computer and music making, shaping and breaking technology we have at our disposal, I opine that any music "tech" forum have a little "review" area, within the constraints of the site itself of course, to further educate us all into what we all can do to get to that holy grail of "Yup, sounds great... right there!!"...as well as serve sorta newbies like me with minimal gear on how to maximize their own's gear's potential. The best gear is nearly useless without the mixing, eq'g, mastering brains out there that were probably shaped to some extent by opinions, reviews, critiques, etc.....not to mention inherent talent that just can't be aquired. Just my 2 cents.

Jay Kahrs · 8th December 2002, 07:43 PM

I personally can't think of a site that lets your work be heard and reviewed. Like I said before, I don't listen to things off the net if I can avoid it. I'm on a dial-up which is slower then shit and will take me about an hour to download a 5 or 6 meg MP3 and then I have really crappy (Polk) speakers which sit on the floor under the computer because I have too much paperwork on my desk. Do you really want me to critique your work under those conditions?

As for how to learning what to do with all this stuff, that used to be much easier. You'd intern with another engineer or at a studio and learn on the job then get to **** around when the room wasn't booked. The engineer would come in and listen to what you did so you had guidence and you learned by doing. Now that you can walk into a store and walk out with $20K in recording gear lots of people skip that guidence and wonder why their recording sounds like shit and it must be the gears fault.

Lee Tyler · 8th December 2002, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay Kahrs
I personally can't think of a site that lets your work be heard and reviewed. Like I said before, I don't listen to things off the net if I can avoid it. I'm on a dial-up which is slower then shit and will take me about an hour to download a 5 or 6 meg MP3 and then I have really crappy (Polk) speakers which sit on the floor under the computer because I have too much paperwork on my desk. Do you really want me to critique your work under those conditions?

With your setup descibed above, I think not! LOL. There are a couple of sites that have "MP3" clinics and so on. I hear you regarding your sound hookup to the internet. I thought I had it good too with some Altec-Lansing speakers with their sub-woofer, but I found a major chunk of the mid to upper audio spectrum was anemic. I am now using a Mitsu amp and some cheapo, but in my opinion, fairly "accurate" speakers to listen to all the music out there as well as attempting to engineer my stuff. Indespensible for a home recordist such as myself. Poor quality internet sound is like having a big screen without a DVD player, digital Dolby/DTS, satellites and subs. Gotta have it, man!!!!. What gives in northern NJ??? No access to a cable modem/dsl??

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay Kahrs
As for how to learning what to do with all this stuff, that used to be much easier. You'd intern with another engineer or at a studio and learn on the job then get to **** around when the room wasn't booked. The engineer would come in and listen to what you did so you had guidence and you learned by doing. Now that you can walk into a store and walk out with $20K in recording gear lots of people skip that guidence and wonder why their recording sounds like shit and it must be the gears fault

Man, who can disagree with you there! In all fields, the same shit is going on. You wouldn't even want to know just who is doing that diagnostic medical ultrasound exam on you or your loved one, because my field has gone down the shitter in the past 15 years. You wouldn't ****ing believe the lazy-ass, piss-poor practitioners out there that are the result of horribly inadequate education, training and mentoring. Scary, eh?

groundcontrol · 9th December 2002, 09:07 AM

I agree it could be better to have a section devoted to posts like this one rather than have them pop up here and there. This way people interested in reviewing stuff and making suggestion could check what's happening there (I must admit I'm not really that interested in doing that myself... :eek:

) and it would help to keep existing forums focused.

BTW Lee, I agree with you at the sometimes apaling lack of interest in their patient's general well being some (hopefully rare) practicioners seem to exhibit... Scary stuff indeed!

Cheers!

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7th December 2002, 09:20 PM	#1
Lee Tyler Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: S.W. Florida/Orig. N.Y.C Posts: 93	Please review 38 second "Traffic" jam This snippet was recorded using a Kurzweil K2600X synth/workstation with stock programs, a Dell 333Mz P2, and a Turtle Beach Montego soundcard. How does the sound quality and mix come across? Appreciate any comments. Thanks -----LEE 38 second "Traffic" jam

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Bob Gear Head Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 47	song reviews Hi all, Maybe this is indeed not the place to post songs and get opinions on, ... well whatever aspect of it! But I would sure be interested in knowing if there is such a site. Cheers, Bob.

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8th December 2002, 06:11 PM	#7
Lee Tyler Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: S.W. Florida/Orig. N.Y.C Posts: 93	Well, this forum, and it's obviously well-read and intentioned body of members, seemingly is centered around the "gear" aspect, and the end product of utilizing the "gear", is what eventually,and most importantly, gets to the "ear". And along with the advent of this amazing computer and music making, shaping and breaking technology we have at our disposal, I opine that any music "tech" forum have a little "review" area, within the constraints of the site itself of course, to further educate us all into what we all can do to get to that holy grail of "Yup, sounds great... right there!!"...as well as serve sorta newbies like me with minimal gear on how to maximize their own's gear's potential. The best gear is nearly useless without the mixing, eq'g, mastering brains out there that were probably shaped to some extent by opinions, reviews, critiques, etc.....not to mention inherent talent that just can't be aquired. Just my 2 cents.

9th December 2002, 09:07 AM	#10
groundcontrol Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 504	I agree it could be better to have a section devoted to posts like this one rather than have them pop up here and there. This way people interested in reviewing stuff and making suggestion could check what's happening there (I must admit I'm not really that interested in doing that myself... :eek: ) and it would help to keep existing forums focused. BTW Lee, I agree with you at the sometimes apaling lack of interest in their patient's general well being some (hopefully rare) practicioners seem to exhibit... Scary stuff indeed! Cheers!