500 Series Preamp Shootout Saturday April 12th. - Page 9

PheelTheMusic · 23rd April 2008, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

I'll see if I can upload aiff's. I already bounced everything to 16/44.1 AIFF.

That'd be sweeeet.

**James 'LA' Lugo** · 23rd April 2008, 11:35 PM

Just finishing the last of them. Honestly, most all of them sound really good. Some stick out to me over and over again as killer.

zvenx · 23rd April 2008, 11:42 PM

Just saying thanks again James.
Did you get to test the Juggernaut? Or I will find out soon enough :-)
rsp

**James 'LA' Lugo** · 23rd April 2008, 11:47 PM

No. Funny you just posted this because I just sent Nathan an email 1 minute ago. I can't add it in; 1 of the singers is out of town as is the acoustic guitarist and the amp I used for the heavies.

BUT!!! I will run it thru the paces next week and post the mp3's on the shootout thread. Sorry guys, It just arrived 2 days to late.

NathanEldred · 23rd April 2008, 11:50 PM

James, you can keep it for as long as you need to, the first run of production models will be here in about 10 days so I won't need it for demos, etc. No pressure though, that's if you are able to get the same amps, mics, singers, and players together to do it and you still have time. Either way, thanks again.

**James 'LA' Lugo** · 24th April 2008, 12:09 AM

I am trippin' out over here listen to all these burns back! As far as heavies, for me it's:

In no order:

Mint Julep (great fatness and presence)
A Designs Red (Monster depth and great edge)
Mono Gama - Discrete (dry and upfront.. in your face dry and raw) Boner factor!

edit: I just listened back a few more time, when the heavy down stroking starts at around 10 seconds the A Design Red just blows past everything! F**kin' killer pre! That pre crushes my soul on heavies.

JTC111 · 24th April 2008, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

I am trippin' out over here listen to all these burns back! As far as heavies, for me it's:

In no order:

Mint Julep (great fatness and presence)
A Designs Red (Monster depth and great edge)
Mono Gama - Discrete (dry and upfront.. in your face dry and raw) Boner factor!

edit: I just listened back a few more time, when the heavy down stroking starts at around 10 seconds the A Design Red just blows past everything! F**kin' killer pre! That pre crushes my soul on heavies.

Should he be allowed to tease us like this?

zvenx · 24th April 2008, 12:24 AM

:-)
I dont' think so.
I dont' even think he has time to be listening back once, much less a FEW MORE TIMES!!!!!! :-)
rsp

**James 'LA' Lugo** · 24th April 2008, 12:28 AM

Just listened through the male and female vocals and acoustic guitar.

First thought; both LaChapell's for vocals were the best to me and the V killed on acoustic guitars, was probably my fav of the day.

The MA5, A Designs Blue and Mono Gama - Nickel all sound beautiful to me on all the vocals and stood out instantly as sweet!

So, IMO the LaChapell 583s was the king of the night... but I think you could make great records with just about any of the units.

Uploads are coming......................

PheelTheMusic · 24th April 2008, 01:26 AM

Pfraser · 24th April 2008, 02:05 AM

Why not put everything together in a torrent file, and then we can listen to everything in WAV. if everyone here helps seed, it will download in no time.

AllAboutTone · 24th April 2008, 03:02 AM

The wait is killing me !!!

**James 'LA' Lugo** · 24th April 2008, 04:07 AM

I have 87 - 45 to 55 second 16/44.1 files from the shootout.

What's the best way to get them to you guys?

PheelTheMusic · 24th April 2008, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

I have 87 - 45 to 55 second 16/44.1 files from the shootout.

What's the best way to get them to you guys?

BitTorrent as suggested earlier would be a great idea. If you could initially seed a zipped folder of the contents it would spread like wildfire. If you aren't comfortable seeding it I'm sure someone here could. I would volunteer but I'm not so sure I would know what I'm doing.

THANKS AGAIN JAMES!!!

PheelTheMusic · 24th April 2008, 04:20 AM

After doing some investigating it seems its as easy as downloading Azureus then choosing File > Share > File.

I would be happy to give it a go for you... PM me if you'd like.

Berolzheimer · 24th April 2008, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matta

Actually it was Aphex if I'm not mistaken, Paul borrowed the format from them.

Cheers

Matt

I don't think that's correct, I believe the API 500 format was around before Aphex existed. As I understand it 2 guys who had worked at API started their own company, B&B, & made a compressor/expander (cx-1) & an parametric EQ (eqf-2) to fit the 500 series racks & consoles, and they then sold the designs to Aphex who made those units & lunchboxes & racks for a few years. FWIW I own an Aphex 11 space rack & 2 B&B cx-1s.

TQP · 24th April 2008, 05:00 AM

...man this waiting is torture...just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread and a huge thanks to James...this has been and will be very helpful with my future purchases.

anguswoodhead · 24th April 2008, 05:16 AM

I to am very keen to hear the results - wish the JLM Audio Pre's were in the shootout though.
Very keen to hear how the LaChapell stacked up.

roger · 24th April 2008, 08:35 AM

yeah it woulda been in joe's best interest to get a couple units to the shoot-out.....lotsa folks will buy based on what they hear from this shoot-out.....ah well.....still gonna pick up a TG500 tho!

Aearth · 24th April 2008, 08:42 AM

Joe is flat out now trying to keep up with orders. I tell you his gear rocks.

nIC

AllAboutTone · 24th April 2008, 08:47 AM

I just had a thought, how are we gonna get a perfect picture of some preamps that have multiple sounds like some of the OSA and Purple pres, depends how you dail them up.

**James 'LA' Lugo** · 24th April 2008, 08:50 AM

We did our best to make each pre sound it's best.

anguswoodhead · 24th April 2008, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aearth

Joe is flat out now trying to keep up with orders. I tell you his gear rocks.

nIC

I agree - but it still would have been nice to hear the comparisons.
I just picked up my Dual99v and TG500.
Thinking about the LaChapell for a valve flavour.

severe · 24th April 2008, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

I have 87 - 45 to 55 second 16/44.1 files from the shootout.

What's the best way to get them to you guys?

James.. I can also help with a torrent file, if need be. It is a fantastic way to get files spread quickly. My upload speeds are great here.

I can also walk you through it rather quickly, if you wanna give it a shot. You can just leave it open for about 24 hours, at which point there will be enough new seeders to take it over for ya.

Lynn Fuston · 24th April 2008, 01:30 PM

So that's what 800M?

I would suggest packetizing them according to instrument auditioned, using zip or something equally ubiquitous, and offering them that way. Any file hosting site could handle that for you. Or you could serve it from your own site if you want to keep up with the number of downloads.

Also, one other potential gotcha, which I'm sure you'll hear about. Windows Media Player will NOT play aiff files. So, for those who might want to DL them and just toss them into a player which most default as WMP, they won't be able to do it. They'll be frustrated and you'll hear about it.

I speak from experience. I found out about that too late when I offered all the samples from my comparison CDs online in their original format, which is aiff.

**Jules** · 24th April 2008, 02:12 PM

We are doing some tweaks to the forum that meant attachments have been suspended for a short while.

This will resume soon.

In the meantime please be patient, we are sorting it out.

The files will be heard here first so we don't need offers to host the files elsewhere.

Thank you

JTC111 · 24th April 2008, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules

We are doing some tweaks to the forum that meant attachments have been suspended for a short while.
This will resume soon.
Thank you

How soon might "soon" be? Could it be today?
(please say 'yes' ...please say 'yes' <--subliminal coersion)

matta · 24th April 2008, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berolzheimer

I don't think that's correct, I believe the API 500 format was around before Aphex existed. As I understand it 2 guys who had worked at API started their own company, B&B, & made a compressor/expander (cx-1) & an parametric EQ (eqf-2) to fit the 500 series racks & consoles, and they then sold the designs to Aphex who made those units & lunchboxes & racks for a few years. FWIW I own an Aphex 11 space rack & 2 B&B cx-1s.

Hey Paul,

Thanks for the clarification and detailed response! I remember reading that Paul asked permission to use the rack, maybe it was for the STANDALONE rack idea? Not sure where I picked that up. Obviously the format used within the API console predates the standalone rack or 'lunchbox'.

Cheers

Matt

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23rd April 2008, 11:35 PM	#242
James 'LA' Lugo Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,144	Just finishing the last of them. Honestly, most all of them sound really good. Some stick out to me over and over again as killer. __________________ Vocal Asylum, 323.462.4722 6381 Hollywood Blvd. Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA 90028 http://www.JamesLugo.com http://www.WritingGiants.com http://www.myspace.com/jameslugo Clients Include: The Smashing Pumpkins, 311, A Fine Frenzy, The Veronica's, American Idol

23rd April 2008, 11:47 PM	#244
James 'LA' Lugo Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,144	No. Funny you just posted this because I just sent Nathan an email 1 minute ago. I can't add it in; 1 of the singers is out of town as is the acoustic guitarist and the amp I used for the heavies. BUT!!! I will run it thru the paces next week and post the mp3's on the shootout thread. Sorry guys, It just arrived 2 days to late. __________________ Vocal Asylum, 323.462.4722 6381 Hollywood Blvd. Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA 90028 http://www.JamesLugo.com http://www.WritingGiants.com http://www.myspace.com/jameslugo Clients Include: The Smashing Pumpkins, 311, A Fine Frenzy, The Veronica's, American Idol

23rd April 2008, 11:50 PM	#245
NathanEldred Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Central Florida Posts: 5,462	James, you can keep it for as long as you need to, the first run of production models will be here in about 10 days so I won't need it for demos, etc. No pressure though, that's if you are able to get the same amps, mics, singers, and players together to do it and you still have time. Either way, thanks again. __________________ Nathan Eldred Atlas Pro Audio- Boutique Gear, Consultation, Sales, & Distibution Home of the Atlas Juggernaut Preamp & 500 Series Revolver Rack USA Distributor for Buzz Audio Exclusive Worldwide Distributor for Atlas Pro Audio Gear, Old School Audio (OSA), and Burgin McDaniel Design Atlas Recording Studios, Inc. Recording/Mixing/Mastering Services

24th April 2008, 12:09 AM	#246
James 'LA' Lugo Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,144	I am trippin' out over here listen to all these burns back! As far as heavies, for me it's: In no order: Mint Julep (great fatness and presence) A Designs Red (Monster depth and great edge) Mono Gama - Discrete (dry and upfront.. in your face dry and raw) Boner factor! edit: I just listened back a few more time, when the heavy down stroking starts at around 10 seconds the A Design Red just blows past everything! F**kin' killer pre! That pre crushes my soul on heavies. __________________ Vocal Asylum, 323.462.4722 6381 Hollywood Blvd. Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA 90028 http://www.JamesLugo.com http://www.WritingGiants.com http://www.myspace.com/jameslugo Clients Include: The Smashing Pumpkins, 311, A Fine Frenzy, The Veronica's, American Idol

23rd April 2008, 11:42 PM	#243
zvenx Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Posts: 281	Just saying thanks again James. Did you get to test the Juggernaut? Or I will find out soon enough :-) rsp

24th April 2008, 12:24 AM	#248
zvenx Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Posts: 281	:-) I dont' think so. I dont' even think he has time to be listening back once, much less a FEW MORE TIMES!!!!!! :-) rsp

24th April 2008, 12:28 AM	#249
James 'LA' Lugo Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,144	Just listened through the male and female vocals and acoustic guitar. First thought; both LaChapell's for vocals were the best to me and the V killed on acoustic guitars, was probably my fav of the day. The MA5, A Designs Blue and Mono Gama - Nickel all sound beautiful to me on all the vocals and stood out instantly as sweet! So, IMO the LaChapell 583s was the king of the night... but I think you could make great records with just about any of the units. Uploads are coming...................... __________________ Vocal Asylum, 323.462.4722 6381 Hollywood Blvd. Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA 90028 http://www.JamesLugo.com http://www.WritingGiants.com http://www.myspace.com/jameslugo Clients Include: The Smashing Pumpkins, 311, A Fine Frenzy, The Veronica's, American Idol

24th April 2008, 01:26 AM	#250
PheelTheMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Long Island, NY + Boston, MA Posts: 612	__________________ "Laziness is the worst trait an engineer can have, besides being deaf." - Roc Mixwell "...then we wouldn't have these mangled, distorted blocks of cheese that the major labels seem to call music." - danasti

24th April 2008, 02:05 AM	#251
Pfraser Lives for gear Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 583	Why not put everything together in a torrent file, and then we can listen to everything in WAV. if everyone here helps seed, it will download in no time.

24th April 2008, 03:02 AM	#252
AllAboutTone 3 + infractions, membership under review with GS admin Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US DEFCON 5 Posts: 3,514	The wait is killing me !!! __________________ [B][SIZE="4"]Using 500 Series is like trading baseball cards[/SIZE][/B]. kfhkhdiddlydoojummpp [B][COLOR="Blue"]Buzzaudio[/COLOR][/B] kfhkh [B]Don't Fu*k with my Tone !!! or me either[/B].

24th April 2008, 04:07 AM	#253
James 'LA' Lugo Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,144	HELP! I have 87 - 45 to 55 second 16/44.1 files from the shootout. What's the best way to get them to you guys? __________________ Vocal Asylum, 323.462.4722 6381 Hollywood Blvd. Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA 90028 http://www.JamesLugo.com http://www.WritingGiants.com http://www.myspace.com/jameslugo Clients Include: The Smashing Pumpkins, 311, A Fine Frenzy, The Veronica's, American Idol

24th April 2008, 04:20 AM	#255
PheelTheMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Long Island, NY + Boston, MA Posts: 612	After doing some investigating it seems its as easy as downloading Azureus then choosing File > Share > File. I would be happy to give it a go for you... PM me if you'd like. __________________ "Laziness is the worst trait an engineer can have, besides being deaf." - Roc Mixwell "...then we wouldn't have these mangled, distorted blocks of cheese that the major labels seem to call music." - danasti

24th April 2008, 05:00 AM	#257
TQP Gear Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NYC-ish Posts: 42	...man this waiting is torture...just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread and a huge thanks to James...this has been and will be very helpful with my future purchases.

24th April 2008, 05:16 AM	#258
anguswoodhead Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lovin' the 500 series Posts: 613	I to am very keen to hear the results - wish the JLM Audio Pre's were in the shootout though. Very keen to hear how the LaChapell stacked up. __________________ Woodhead Studios www.woodheadstudios.com http://www.myspace.com/woodheadstudios http://www.myspace.com/trackmanmusic "Again the word HOT is excruciatingly painfully recognizable and when you realize that my mixes are straight FIRE then you admit that you will spontaneously COMBUST if you play my tracks in the car... matter of fact, if you BURN my mix to a cd and put it in your gas tank, it will power your car." "illacov" on the Hip Hop forum.

24th April 2008, 08:35 AM	#259
roger Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 249	yeah it woulda been in joe's best interest to get a couple units to the shoot-out.....lotsa folks will buy based on what they hear from this shoot-out.....ah well.....still gonna pick up a TG500 tho!

24th April 2008, 08:42 AM	#260
Aearth Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,114	Joe is flat out now trying to keep up with orders. I tell you his gear rocks. nIC

24th April 2008, 08:47 AM	#261
AllAboutTone 3 + infractions, membership under review with GS admin Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US DEFCON 5 Posts: 3,514	I just had a thought, how are we gonna get a perfect picture of some preamps that have multiple sounds like some of the OSA and Purple pres, depends how you dail them up. __________________ [B][SIZE="4"]Using 500 Series is like trading baseball cards[/SIZE][/B]. kfhkhdiddlydoojummpp [B][COLOR="Blue"]Buzzaudio[/COLOR][/B] kfhkh [B]Don't Fu*k with my Tone !!! or me either[/B].

24th April 2008, 08:50 AM	#262
James 'LA' Lugo Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,144	We did our best to make each pre sound it's best. __________________ Vocal Asylum, 323.462.4722 6381 Hollywood Blvd. Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA 90028 http://www.JamesLugo.com http://www.WritingGiants.com http://www.myspace.com/jameslugo Clients Include: The Smashing Pumpkins, 311, A Fine Frenzy, The Veronica's, American Idol

24th April 2008, 01:30 PM	#265
Lynn Fuston Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Spring Hill, TN, USA Posts: 1,786	So that's what 800M? I would suggest packetizing them according to instrument auditioned, using zip or something equally ubiquitous, and offering them that way. Any file hosting site could handle that for you. Or you could serve it from your own site if you want to keep up with the number of downloads. Also, one other potential gotcha, which I'm sure you'll hear about. Windows Media Player will NOT play aiff files. So, for those who might want to DL them and just toss them into a player which most default as WMP, they won't be able to do it. They'll be frustrated and you'll hear about it. I speak from experience. I found out about that too late when I offered all the samples from my comparison CDs online in their original format, which is aiff. __________________ Lynn Fuston 3D Audio Inc. Host of 3dB Offering downloads of Preamp, Mic, DAW summing comparisons here. Sign the Metallica petition and tell the industry "we want to enjoy listening to music again, instead of distortion." I'm 5444.

24th April 2008, 02:12 PM	#266
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 11,813	We are doing some tweaks to the forum that meant attachments have been suspended for a short while. This will resume soon. In the meantime please be patient, we are sorting it out. The files will be heard here first so we don't need offers to host the files elsewhere. Thank you __________________ Jules "...there are some amazing deals to be had in this right now. it brings battleship mixing closer to the jilted generation" - reptil