500 Series Preamp Shootout Saturday April 12th. - Page 7

mammath · 17th April 2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

Most all of the units were good or great but the 2 LaChappel's just f**kin slayed! The 512C was another great unit as was the P1, MA5, Mint Julep, JM-130 and Mono Gama.

Now, which unit(s) is this referring to? The Jensen, Cinemag, or both?

Lynn Fuston · 17th April 2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by peterc

Sorry Matt, it was the drink and not the race that inspired the name......

The EQ on the cards ( no pun intended ) is called the Black Russian. I have to admit I have never drunk either drink but the names are cool.

A shame. You have bourbon down there. Maybe not Kentucky bourbon. You have mint? I know you have sugar. We may have to fix you up with the rest.

Two or three of those and you'll be seeing colors. Maybe hearing colors too.

/;-)

(All together, class. Can you say "RABBIT TRAIL?" I knew you could.)

DCMIX · 17th April 2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake Dempsey

I would love to hear the Chandler Germanium. Particularly on bass as a di and/or mic-ed up cab and on vocals. I'd be very interested in differences in various feedback settings.

Here is a letter i sent to wade after i got my 500 Germ. Not sure if its 100% relevant to this thread, but here goes.

Wade,

You shipped me a 500 series Germanium (thru Alto Music) last week and I really was not prepared for what I heard.

Shame on you !!!!!

You need to put a warning sticker on the box! Something like "This Unit will make you change your religion!"

What do you put in this thing? Elephant Testicals?

I've never heard a pre as HUGE as this. I was commenting the other day to a buddy of mine about the Old School Audio 500 pre that's called the "Big Daddy", that's quite large sounding. But it sounded tiny up against the 500 Germanium.

My 1st thought was, I gotta have more of these... no s**t! That IS the 1st thought that came to mind.

I tracked a female vocalist on it Friday thru my Wunder Audio mic, and the all I could keep saying to my self was "This thing sounds more tuby than all of my tube equipment.

Its easily going to be my go to pre on just about everything.

Dennis Cupp
'A Newly Converted Fan of Chandler Products'

Berolzheimer · 17th April 2008, 09:00 PM

I was bummed that the 500 Germ wasn't happening, I wanted to hear it against the others too. I did some tracks with the rackmount Germ last year & my thought was, this thing ain't HiFi but it sure is fun.

DCMIX · 17th April 2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Berolzheimer

I was bummed that the 500 Germ wasn't happening, I wanted to hear it against the others too. I did some tracks with the rackmount Germ last year & my thought was, this thing ain't HiFi but it sure is fun.

Its not for clean recordings of chamber orchs.. thats for sure.
Its ALL about color and character. More so than any pre's ive ever come across.
Its gonna leave a sonic imprint for sure. One hell'uv'a'Sound though.

In my rack i got 3 original BA API's, 2 OSA classics, 1 OSA Mutant, 1 OSA Big Daddy and a 554 EQ. Got 2 spaces left and cant decide what to add. Got loads of other pre's for normal stuff (True Precision, Demeter, Vintech etc).

Not sure what direction to go. I have ZERO regrets on the Chandler. Its the James Earl Jones of mic pres for sure!

Dennis
DCMIX

GilWave · 17th April 2008, 10:45 PM

It's a shame James didn't get to put up the Burl B1 Mic Pre - Eddie Kramer has two of them, told us the were "the balls".

Next time there is a MP shoot out, please let me know so I can get a B1 in the mix.

-gil

PS to Dennis DCMIX - don't mess with The Jesus!

DCMIX · 17th April 2008, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GilWave

It's a shame James didn't get to put up the Burl B1 Mic Pre - Eddie Kramer has two of them, told us the were "the balls".

Next time there is a MP shoot out, please let me know so I can get a B1 in the mix.

-gil

PS to Dennis DCMIX - don't mess with The Jesus!

I most certianly DONT roll on Shomer Shabbas !

DCMIX
'abiding'

GilWave · 17th April 2008, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCMIX

I most certianly DONT roll on Shomer Shabbas !

Dude!

matta · 17th April 2008, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterc

Sorry Matt, it was the drink and not the race that inspired the name......

The EQ on the cards ( no pun intended ) is called the Black Russian. I have to admit I have never drunk either drink but the names are cool.

Peter

Hah hah,

I MEANT to say it was named AFTER the DRINK that was popularized by the Kentucky Derby... not the Derby itself, LOL! Peter has a thing for naming the units after alcoholic beverages, just wait till your see our Budweiser Spring Reverb, LOL!!!!

I must admit I've never had a Mint Julep either. I'll be at Potluck Con in June, maybe they make them in New Orleans? I'll need to try one just to say I DID! LOL

Lynn, RE the front panel design, I think we are one of the first to use a bone white panel and I think it sticks out fairly well against the bulk of black units. out there.

I'll say this, Scott's new proto looks SEXY... I'd even take her out on a date... just to see what she has on her 'plates' (sorry VERY bad geeky joke!)

Cheers

Matt

Kronos147 · 18th April 2008, 12:27 AM

If there is a part 2 of the shootout, it would be nice to have 4 of each pre, and do kick, snare, and overheads.

I will bring the 512c's and MX-1's again.

strings · 18th April 2008, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCMIX

I most certianly DONT roll on Shomer Shabbas !

DCMIX
'abiding'

lol...easily one of my favorite movies! I bought the DVD so I could watch it every 6 months or so. I'm laughing just thinking about some of the scenes!
I wish they would do a sequel to it...maybe with the dude winning a lottery or hooking up with the rich broad at the pool.

p.s. maybe hanging out with Henry (from Barfly) he, he

strings · 18th April 2008, 02:00 AM

Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread with movie themes, just find some of the post funny.

Thanks to all the guys for doing the shootout; can't wait to hear the results!

Lynn Fuston · 18th April 2008, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matta

I must admit I've never had a Mint Julep either. I'll be at Potluck Con in June, maybe they make them in New Orleans? I'll need to try one just to say I DID! LOL

N'awlins is Hurricane* town. (Not Katrina!) But I bet they could whip up a Julep for you. If they could just find some alcohol. (Big joke there.) They drink Hurricanes down there like they were water.

*Hurricane-it's a fruity beverage with 3 oz. of rum.

New Orleans Hurricane - Allrecipes

picksail · 18th April 2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynn Fuston

They drink Hurricanes down there like they were water.

Actually it's more of tourist attraction. I lived there for nine years and never once witnessed anyone drinking one of those.

3rd&4thT · 18th April 2008, 08:43 AM

Good bourbon doesn't need a thing. Knob Creek or any bourbon with "Reserve" in its name is just fine as it is.

Exception: maybe Booker's needs some water. Uncut, it'll have you sounding like Moms Mabley the next morning.

3rd&4thT

JTC111 · 18th April 2008, 01:09 PM

I thought this thread was about a "shootout" not "shooters"

<--Gladys Knight and the Pips???

matta · 18th April 2008, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTC111

I thought this thread was about a "shootout" not "shooters"

<--Gladys Knight and the Pips???

Blame Lynn! For a tea totaler he sure talks alot about alcoholic beverages

Matt

Wes Kuhnley · 19th April 2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by imdok

Just out of curiosity, why was Great River not represented? Nobody owned one?

We thought briefly about getting a B-stock unit together for the shootout, and then promptly forgot about the whole thing when someone foolishly left a case of beer in the shop...

Berolzheimer · 19th April 2008, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wes Kuhnley

We thought briefly about getting a B-stock unit together for the shootout, and then promptly forgot about the whole thing when someone foolishly left a case of beer in the shop...

I think it was the guys from A-Designs...

Wes Kuhnley · 19th April 2008, 03:31 AM

I've got a short attention span...except when it comes to drinking.

pan60 · 20th April 2008, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Berolzheimer

I think it was the guys from A-Designs...

the A-Designs guys would have brought hard liquor!!!

pan60 · 20th April 2008, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynn Fuston

Water? You water down your Mint Julep? No self respecting Southerner would do that.

You add the ice and let that hot Southern sun do the rest. Where's my parasol?

no, no i don't
i was just give a basic starter recipe

Gpatton · 20th April 2008, 09:33 AM

...Considering he used and " 's " I would think he was referring to both ( "S" and "V"). There were two versions there, weren't there?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mammath

Now, which unit(s) is this referring to? The Jensen, Cinemag, or both?

mammath · 20th April 2008, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpatton

...Considering he used and " 's " I would think he was referring to both ( "S" and "V"). There were two versions there, weren't there?

No, you misunderstood me......or rather, I wasn't too clear in my inquiry.

I was merely asking which microphone input transformer came with the unit(s) tested. The Jensen, or the standard Cinemag? Or, were both used in the test?

Also, does anyone who was there, know if the MA5 was used with AND without the 28k feature engaged?

Kronos147 · 20th April 2008, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mammath

Also, does anyone who was there, know if the MA5 was used with AND without the 28k feature engaged?

Just without.

Lynn Fuston · 21st April 2008, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by matta

Blame Lynn!

Somehow I did manage to drag it abysmally off topic, didn't I.

I'd be fine if all the off topic stuff (at least mine) was deleted. Everything after "as green as the PC board." Just in case a moderator is listening in.

**Tim Farrant** · 21st April 2008, 10:48 AM

I am noticing a common problem with this thread - the correct spelling for Elixer is actually Elixir

Thanks
Tim.

JTC111 · 21st April 2008, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Farrant

I am noticing a common problem with this thread - the correct spelling for Elixer is actually Elixir

Thanks
Tim.

A bunch of them have been on a mint julep binge for days and you expect them to be able to spell??? Your expectations are way too high.

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17th April 2008, 09:00 PM	#184
Berolzheimer Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: El Lay Posts: 1,929	I was bummed that the 500 Germ wasn't happening, I wanted to hear it against the others too. I did some tracks with the rackmount Germ last year & my thought was, this thing ain't HiFi but it sure is fun. __________________ Purveyor of fine sounds since 1961. My very incomplete IMDB list: My very incomplete IMDB list I'm all ears.

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GilWave Lives for gear Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Jersey, Exit 55 Posts: 1,450	It's a shame James didn't get to put up the Burl B1 Mic Pre - Eddie Kramer has two of them, told us the were "the balls". Next time there is a MP shoot out, please let me know so I can get a B1 in the mix. -gil PS to Dennis DCMIX - don't mess with The Jesus! __________________ www.wavedistribution.com Ringwood New Jersey USA "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

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Kronos147 Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Burbank, California Posts: 584	If there is a part 2 of the shootout, it would be nice to have 4 of each pre, and do kick, snare, and overheads. I will bring the 512c's and MX-1's again. __________________ www.kronosrecording.com www.bigbarkrecords.com

18th April 2008, 01:09 PM	#196
JTC111 Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 102	I thought this thread was about a "shootout" not "shooters" <--Gladys Knight and the Pips??? __________________ Jim If my synapses get any wider I'm gonna need a patchbay for my brain!

18th April 2008, 02:00 AM	#192
strings Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 168	Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread with movie themes, just find some of the post funny. Thanks to all the guys for doing the shootout; can't wait to hear the results!

18th April 2008, 08:43 AM	#195
3rd&4thT Gear addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 360	Good bourbon doesn't need a thing. Knob Creek or any bourbon with "Reserve" in its name is just fine as it is. Exception: maybe Booker's needs some water. Uncut, it'll have you sounding like Moms Mabley the next morning. 3rd&4thT

19th April 2008, 03:31 AM	#200
Wes Kuhnley Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 487	I've got a short attention span...except when it comes to drinking. __________________ Associated with: Great River Electronics \| Resonant Electronic Design Check out the brand new Resonant 18 watt amplifiers! "Don't f-ck with my drink if you value your teeth."

21st April 2008, 10:48 AM	#207
Tim Farrant Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,757	I am noticing a common problem with this thread - the correct spelling for Elixer is actually Elixir Thanks Tim. __________________ innovative outboard processing Last edited by Tim Farrant; 21st April 2008 at 10:49 AM. Reason: spelling