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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | VST Harmonizer Plugin
Does anybody out there know of a great Eventide H3000/949/910 type plugin for VST? There seem to be some for TDM/RTAS, but not VST. It is to be used mostly for basic pitch doubling. I have talked to the people at Audio Damage about theirs, but it doesn't do the more modern cleanish H3000 thing, only the vintage glitchier stuff. Thanks
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Waves Doubler works for what you are talking about, that's the one I use.
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VST - for basic doubling with random & formants etc, have a look at Clone Ensemble
If you really want full on pitch correction and harmonies etc, I wouldn't trust this to a real-time plugin effect. Melodyne Studio is the way to go, and you get the plugin for free if you buy this. They just announced Direct Note Access a couple of days ago - this is mind blowing technology.
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Originally Posted by Kiwiburger VST - for basic doubling with random & formants etc, have a look at Clone Ensemble
If you really want full on pitch correction and harmonies etc, I wouldn't trust this to a real-time plugin effect. Melodyne Studio is the way to go, and you get the plugin for free if you buy this. They just announced Direct Note Access a couple of days ago - this is mind blowing technology. | I hear you, Melodyne is great, but I just need a pitch doubler effect.
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Originally Posted by camerondye Waves Doubler works for what you are talking about, that's the one I use.
cam | I guess I should of said inexpensive. The Waves Doubler does a fine job, it's just more than I want to pay, especially after a good sized investment in UAD-1. |
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If you use the SIR reverb you can then have access to Eventide Impulses - for that matter you could use them with any Impulse plug.
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Convolution is static and boring.
Checkout the cloneensemble I mentioned - it's cheap but powerful.
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how about Vielklang
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Akai Deca Buddy; Antares Harmony; Waves stuff. And all of them produce weak results if you ask me. They are not even in the same league as Eventide.
If you want to hear Eventide pitch shifting hard at work, listen to anything Jodeci or Dru Hill did. WOW. Try THAT with any of the VST plugins out. Good luck.
I am holding out hope for a top notch harmony plugin that can truly emulate an Eventide, and I have to think that one is in the works somewhere. Apparently Melodyne's new technology will be pretty awesome.. but I have a funny feeling harmony voices will sound thin and fake like everything else.. I'll be happy to be wrong about that though
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Originally Posted by Isotropical Akai Deca Buddy; Antares Harmony; Waves stuff. And all of them produce weak results if you ask me. They are not even in the same league as Eventide.
If you want to hear Eventide pitch shifting hard at work, listen to anything Jodeci or Dru Hill did. WOW. Try THAT with any of the VST plugins out. Good luck.
I am holding out hope for a top notch harmony plugin that can truly emulate an Eventide, and I have to think that one is in the works somewhere. Apparently Melodyne's new technology will be pretty awesome.. but I have a funny feeling harmony voices will sound thin and fake like everything else.. I'll be happy to be wrong about that though | well then this is what we're waiting for SoundToys PurePitch - Vocal Harmony, Doubling and Character Modification Plug-In for Pro Tools
these guys are brilliant, i love all their stuff so far and these plugins will be native sometime soon too
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waves doubler will give u the eventide type micro pitch shift widening of vocals u r looking for quite easily & with quality for vst
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Originally Posted by macleodgrant | Thanks, but I need a VST not TDM or RTAS plugin. The SoundToys product is great, I just can't use it with Nuendo or Cubase! |
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| the janet jackson thing
Will the waves doubler help you get that janet jackson kinda vibe how her backing vocals almost sounded robotic
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#16 | | Gear interested
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| doubler
And I actually use the doubler but it doesn't give me that big feeling I like
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Originally Posted by Beyersound Thanks, but I need a VST not TDM or RTAS plugin. The SoundToys product is great, I just can't use it with Nuendo or Cubase!  | i know buddy. the good news is that these guys will be releasing VST version of these plugs in the near future - they have indicated this but it may be a while. quality plugs are slowly but surely becoming available to us
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Originally Posted by macleodgrant i know buddy. the good news is that these guys will be releasing VST version of these plugs in the near future - they have indicated this but it may be a while. quality plugs are slowly but surely becoming available to us | It's all just a Digidesign plot!!!!! Just kidding. Thanks, I hope they release the VST versions soon. I have heard great things about SoundToys. |
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Originally Posted by bloodinthewater And I actually use the doubler but it doesn't give me that big feeling I like | I have used it, it's pretty good at the H3000 thing, but I agree it is not as big. I am also not thrilled with the cost of the Waves stuff. Cheers |
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Waves has a harmony engine.
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Originally Posted by Beyersound I have used it, it's pretty good at the H3000 thing, but I agree it is not as big. I am also not thrilled with the cost of the Waves stuff. Cheers  | i bought the waves musicians bundle 2 for $150 - i thought that was very cheap for the plugs i got - that along the the W1 Wong limiter you really have a great toolkit
the musicians bundle includes waves doubler!
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I'm anti-wup also, but I bought the Musicians II bundle because it is an amazing deal. The renvox is pretty dang good...
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Originally Posted by camerondye I'm anti-wup also, but I bought the Musicians II bundle because it is an amazing deal. The renvox is pretty dang good...
cam | Hey Cam, I agree with you, the Renvox is the one Waves comp I like. The De-esser is good too. Between UAD-1 and Hydratone-Angeltone, I have the comp and EQ thing really handled. |
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