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Old 12th March 2008, 09:18 PM   #1
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Naked Eye VS R-121 I HAVE CLIPS !

Ok so im done messing around with these mics for the day, and this is what i have come up with.....

Im not gonna say which clip is which mic, just tell me what clip you like the best.....then i will post after a few responses what the mics are.


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Personally i think its soo close, its hard to tell......
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Old 12th March 2008, 09:57 PM   #2
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Unless there was EQ applied individually to each mic, I don't think they sound simliar at all.

Mic 1 is very forward in the 500hz-1.2k region. Mic 2 is scooped in that same region.

I prefer mic 2.
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Old 12th March 2008, 09:59 PM   #3
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Unless there was EQ applied individually to each mic, I don't think they sound simliar at all.

Mic 1 is very forward in the 500hz-1.2k region. Mic 2 is scooped in that same region.

I prefer mic 2.

no eq at all
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Old 12th March 2008, 10:02 PM   #4
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no eq at all
Mix 2 was not as loud as Mix 1.

But I prefer the guitars in Mix 2. They're more natural IMO and less mid-forward. But both have their place, so it's really up to artist/producer.
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Old 12th March 2008, 10:02 PM   #5
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They don't sound close to me either... I think I like mic in clip #2 better as well, at least in this context.
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Old 12th March 2008, 10:08 PM   #6
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Sound kinda different here too.
I like 'em both. Sold my 121 last week, still have a Naked Eye. I'd probably pick #2 for the rhythm and #1 for the lead tones. But I pretty much never work with that style so I'm pretty poorly qualified.
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Old 13th March 2008, 12:44 AM   #7
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So clip 1 is the Naked eye, and clip 2 is the Royer.

So suggestions from these clips would be keep the royer ?
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Old 14th March 2008, 04:39 PM   #8
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Any other opinions???
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Old 14th March 2008, 05:32 PM   #9
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Any other opinions???

Keep both.
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Old 14th March 2008, 06:30 PM   #10
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I like mic 1 better on rhythm.

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Old 14th March 2008, 06:32 PM   #11
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I prefered clip 1 guitars, though it sounds louder in the mix then the Clip 2, so that could be it
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Old 14th March 2008, 08:10 PM   #12
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The Royer sounds dead in comparison. Anyway it sounds good... but the Naked Eye is outstanding!

Do you have the possibility to do an overhead-shootout (including both sides of the NE)? That is what I am really interested in!
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Old 14th March 2008, 08:43 PM   #13
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Awesome In Flames song.
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Old 14th March 2008, 09:40 PM   #14
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I had guessed the NE was Mic 1 before reading your post with the answer. I much prefer it to the Royer in your samples. The Royer sounds muffled in comparison. The NE seems to flatteringly represent the whole frequency range. I might prefer the Royer on a clean ice-pick tele, but even then I'm not sure. I could see how a Royer would take a raspy high-end edge off.

Which side of the NE did you use, the label (i.e. darker) side? How did you position those mics?

If you can afford it, keep both. If I had to pick one, I'd keep the NE.
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Old 25th March 2008, 01:09 AM   #15
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I like mic1 more, due to its dynamic catching and agressive behavior. I'd hope, moving it a little more offaxis would reduce upper frequs bite?

but damn, you've played these pretty cool riffs with such a groove, way better than the original song has, great

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Old 25th March 2008, 01:01 PM   #16
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How 'bout a pass with an SM57 for comparison?
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Old 25th March 2008, 01:31 PM   #17
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Mic 2 sounds the best , very detailed and more agressive sound.
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Old 25th March 2008, 02:07 PM   #18
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Exclamation

I clearly liked mic1's full bodied sound
I'm shocked to see that others liked mic2 and that it was a royer- my perenial favorite on guitar cabs....
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Old 21st April 2008, 07:51 PM   #19
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I'm in: Naked Eye on its way to my studio
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Old 21st April 2008, 07:55 PM   #20
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Cool, I'll give this a listen when I get home.
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Old 21st April 2008, 09:07 PM   #21
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I preferred the Naked Eye. But I would also like to hear a clip recorded with an sm57 for a point of reference.
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Old 1st May 2008, 01:46 PM   #22
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Thumbs up

This Naked Eye is a great mic
I thought both clips sounded decent, but preferrd the NE for its clarity and authenticity...even at a draw the NE is half the price, so I am very appreciative of this thread

Thanks!
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Old 1st May 2008, 03:21 PM   #23
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I liked the detail in clip 1 especially in the rythym sections, but the Royer has something special going on in clip 2. Preferred clip 1.
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Old 2nd May 2008, 07:17 AM   #24
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For this style, I liked the Royer better. Less middy.
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Old 8th May 2008, 02:37 PM   #25
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I guess it's time to feed my Gearslut addiction again. Loved the Naked Eye.
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For anyone interested in, here is a comparison between naked eye and some other standards in recording guitar cabs...
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Old 14th May 2008, 07:01 PM   #27
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Part 2
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Old 14th May 2008, 07:03 PM   #28
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And my personal favourite in recording guitars: Combination of Naked Eye and D190

PS: Sorry, but I'm not a guitar player and the riff is a bit poor...
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Old 4th June 2008, 12:43 AM   #29
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i think that it sounds pretty awesome.

makes me want to get one too.

i have going back and forth between getting a royer vs a naked eye.

your recording sounds nice and thick. the others that i have heard with the naked eye were pretty birght, almost like a LDC.
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Cool comparison, you should make a separate thread for this.

I liked the Naked Eye and MD421 best.
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