help with lining up drum samples

maskedman72 · 6th March 2008

99.9% of the stuff i do uses snare and kick and tom samples.

my question is how should i line them up to get the best result?

once i have all of the drums replaced, what i do is zoom way in and line the samples up with the real hits captured in the oh mics.

is this the way to do it, or should i line the samples up with the real drums themselves?

Doc Mixwell · 6th March 2008

Line it up to the timing of the music.........???

There is no right answer here, really,

Set the First Kick Hit to Beat 1
And then line them all up according to the transients of the original parts.

Kiwiburger · 6th March 2008

What sounds best to you? Your overheads will be slightly time delayed from your close mics. If you are replacing your close mic drums with dry samples, you could argue that you should align them with the close mic tracks. Aligning them with the overheads would be unnatural - but punchier. You might prefer the sound. But considering that transient peaks can be a problem in digital, you are compounding that problem. You probably have to consider what is going to happen later on, especially in mastering. All those peaks that you are lining up might get shaved off anyway ...

severe · 6th March 2008

I would use the "real drums themselves" as the reference, and leave the OH's to act like OH's.

allencollins · 6th March 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskedman72

99.9% of the stuff i do uses snare and kick and tom samples.

my question is how should i line them up to get the best result?

once i have all of the drums replaced, what i do is zoom way in and line the samples up with the real hits captured in the oh mics.

is this the way to do it, or should i line the samples up with the real drums themselves?

do you have midi in your DAW? Why no drumagog?
anyhoo poor mans drumagog as follows.

gate and compress the drums tracks then use this prog.

MuseBook Wav2Midi

there are several like it that are actually better

then download a free plugin sampler there are several also.
just trigger via midi. Velocity intact
Ive been doing it this way for 10 years now, works killer

AC

Protools Guy · 6th March 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by severe

I would use the "real drums themselves" as the reference, and leave the OH's to act like OH's.

Me too...

Protools Guy · 6th March 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskedman72

99.9% of the stuff i do uses snare and kick and tom samples.

my question is how should i line them up to get the best result?

once i have all of the drums replaced, what i do is zoom way in and line the samples up with the real hits captured in the oh mics.

is this the way to do it, or should i line the samples up with the real drums themselves?

I just noticed your avitar.
Loudness: What a GREAT band! thumbsup

maskedman72 · 7th March 2008

loudness fukin rocks and thunder in the east has the best guitar tone.

i do have drumagog. i still have to move the samples around with it.

Protools Guy · 7th March 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskedman72

thunder in the east has the best guitar tone.

MZA!

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maskedman72 Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2004 Location: michigan Posts: 1,456 Thread Starter	help with lining up drum samples 99.9% of the stuff i do uses snare and kick and tom samples. my question is how should i line them up to get the best result? once i have all of the drums replaced, what i do is zoom way in and line the samples up with the real hits captured in the oh mics. is this the way to do it, or should i line the samples up with the real drums themselves? __________________ www.myspace.com/blackfeatherstudios www.tempermillstudios.com

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Doc Mixwell 70% coffee & 30% beer Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Quincy, MA Posts: 7,731	Line it up to the timing of the music.........??? There is no right answer here, really, Set the First Kick Hit to Beat 1 And then line them all up according to the transients of the original parts. __________________ Adam Brass adam@dspdoctor.com DSPdoctor "Pro Audio Gear And Advice for the Modern Recording Studio" ________________ "Any opinions above are worth exactly what you paid for them." Anonymous "If I find 10,000 ways something won't work, I haven't failed. I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is another step forward. Thomas Edison RTFM

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severe Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2005 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 1,176	I would use the "real drums themselves" as the reference, and leave the OH's to act like OH's. __________________ "Some of you people just plain don't know s---. No offense." -theblue1 "Tell us if it looks like it will sound good." -RKrizman "The many truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view." -Obi-Wan Kenobi

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Kiwiburger Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,075	What sounds best to you? Your overheads will be slightly time delayed from your close mics. If you are replacing your close mic drums with dry samples, you could argue that you should align them with the close mic tracks. Aligning them with the overheads would be unnatural - but punchier. You might prefer the sound. But considering that transient peaks can be a problem in digital, you are compounding that problem. You probably have to consider what is going to happen later on, especially in mastering. All those peaks that you are lining up might get shaved off anyway ...

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maskedman72 Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2004 Location: michigan Posts: 1,456 Thread Starter	loudness fukin rocks and thunder in the east has the best guitar tone. i do have drumagog. i still have to move the samples around with it.