the lunchbox 2008! - Page 3

Silvertone · 8th March 2008

Here are a few of mine...

The Edyne 602's are part of Capitol Records Studio B console. The Q8 MM61 mic pre & eq's are from the Hollywood Bowl console and the Q8 compressor are from the Oral Roberts console (these are finally being wired up, yeah!). Not sure where the Melcors came out of.

pan60 · 8th March 2008

here's my new 500HR i snagged for testing units. with a pre ( the BIZZAR AUDIO MINT JULEP ), thats in for review: ) ~

daddykev · 9th March 2008

GR + Avedis = Heaven

Anselmo · 9th March 2008

What are the advantages of this 500 series gear... is it mainly a space saver??

pan60 · 9th March 2008

quality gear at a reasonable price ( you are not buying a power supply and rack with every unit ), space, create your own channel strips, addiction, oh and the club

johnnyjellybean · 9th March 2008

Let's not forget portability. How cool and versatile is it to walk into a session as a producer or a guitar player and to pull out a lunchbox full of killer pres ?

pan60 · 9th March 2008

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Originally Posted by johnnyjellybean

Let's not forget portability. How cool and versatile is it to walk into a session as a producer or a guitar player and to pull out a lunchbox full of killer pres ?

yes yes yes, even if it is a rack in a three space case: )~
pop the top and what the drool!

Halfmoon · 10th March 2008

Just one more slot to fill. Looking for variety

IMG_1430a.jpg

gm5k · 10th March 2008

here's an updated pic of mine, all ive added recently are the Eisen EQ's...a Juggernaut or two should be in there soon.

the head AE of the studio got caught in this pic a little bit

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Originally Posted by daddykev

GR + Avedis = Heaven

what a cool looking lunchbox thumbsup

ImJohn · 10th March 2008

Nathan has been kind enough to let me play with a Juggernaut for a little while. due to other stuff I have going on I really didn't spend as much time as i would of liked with it. I didn't do any direct sound comparisons to other pres and I only tried a few mics. And the picture doesn't really do it justice, especially the LED button, they look much better in person thumbsup bit i only had time for a quick handheld shot (no tripod or fancy lights)

I'm really impressed with how well thought out the switching logic is! Only took a minute or so to figure out what was going on. (hey, the phantom switch is broken! OH! Never mind, just a clever delay for preventing accidents! ) Switching to different transformers automatically turns the mute on and off while it's switching etc.

When I first opened it up I was a little concerned that the circuit boards the switches are mounted on flexed/moved a little bit too much but once I put it in my rack and powered it up, I realized that I was pressing way to hard on them initially. it only takes a medium light touch (but they do have a nice tacktile feel and there is no guessing if you pressed one or not, even if you aren't looking at the pretty lights!)

The lighted switches look awesome but may be a little bright for some people. I think it would be cool if the clip led was actually a dimmer switch too but, if that's not possible maybe there could be a jumper somewhere in the card that end users could use to set the brightness.

I played around with it as a DI for a electric bass and it sounded really nice. Clear yet full bodied. (if you could bottle the sound I bet people would drink it!

) I haven't really figured out the +THD switch yet. It seems to drop the output level quit a bit but I didn't record any of the bass stuff and listen back so it was hard to tell. I really need to try some electric guitar, DI and mic'd, while playing around with the +THD and Boost switches.

Tonight I tried recording my drum set through it and it performed well! (unlike myself!) I just used a BLUE OmniMouse right into the Juggernaut. No problems at all. The OmniMouse I'm still experimenting with as an overhead and it seems to sound a tad dark for that use and really brings the toms forward a little to much (in it's current position at least) so I wish I would of had time to try a couple different mics.

My initial impression is that the construction and sound quality of the Juggernaut puts it approximately in the same general leauge as many of the other top end 500 series modules I have tried (A-Designs, API, BAE, Shadow Hills) Looks and sounds great, is versitile and solidly built! Lot's of options and settings to explore!!!

edit; I forgot to mention that I think the switch label graphics could use a little bit of a shift upwards. The labels are almost dead center between the switches and I often wasn't sure which switch did what until I looked at the top and bottom of the switch bank to remind myself if the labels are under or over the switch. A minor thing to be sure but i think it would make usage a little more intuitive.

NathanEldred · 10th March 2008

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Originally Posted by ImJohn

When I first opened it up I was a little concerned that the circuit boards the switches are mounted on flexed/moved a little bit too much but once I put it in my rack and powered it up, I realized that I was pressing way to hard on them initially. it only takes a medium light touch (but they do have a nice tacktile feel and there is no guessing if you pressed one or not, even if you aren't looking at the pretty lights!)

Thanks for the kind words John. Note that John has the production prototype which has a few minor differences from the final production units. The production model's switches are extra reinforced to the board to make it extra secure for years of reliability.

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The lighted switches look awesome but may be a little bright for some people.

These will be slightly dimmed as compared to the production prototype you have (in particular the red and blue, the green seemed okay to my eyes). Also, the order of the lights is different in the final production, it will be (in order of the buttons)

Red-Red
Green-Green
Blue-Blue
Red-Red

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I haven't really figured out the +THD switch yet. It seems to drop the output level quit a bit but I didn't record any of the bass stuff and listen back so it was hard to tell.

It's a 10db pad on the output. Similar in philosphy to how you find on the OSA stuff, or like how people do when they put a 10db pad on the output of an API so they can yield slightly more harmonic distortion (hence +THD)...and also a way to avoid the input pad (which messes with the tone of the preamp). It gives a little edge for transformer saturation. Obviously since it's a pad on the output, you'll need to click the gain about 8 notches to get it back to the same gain output. Gain steps are approx 1.2 db depending on boost setting. It will be cleaner without the output pad on, so it's your choice.

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Tonight I tried recording my drum set through it and it performed well! (unlike myself!) I just used a BLUE OmniMouse right into the Juggernaut. No problems at all. The OmniMouse I'm still experimenting with as an overhead and it seems to sound a tad dark for that use and really brings the toms forward a little to much (in it's current position at least) so I wish I would of had time to try a couple different mics.

Sweeping the impedance should make a big difference in the tone, at least it did with dynamics, condensers and tube condensers that I used it with so far. The higher impedances really open up the high end. Not to mention if people want a really modern sound there is the optional nickel output available (you don't have it there). The lower the impedance is, I've found that the darker the preamp gets.

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My initial impression is that the construction and sound quality of the Juggernaut puts it approximately in the same general leauge as many of the other top end 500 series modules I have tried (A-Designs, API, BAE, Shadow Hills) Looks and sounds great, is versitile and solidly built! Lot's of options and settings to explore!!!

Thanks John. Let us know what you think if you get a thorough chance to do a direct comparison to other preamps with a variety of mics and applications. I've compared it to a variety of preamps and FWIW I've found it to be more versatile than anything I have.

pan60 · 11th March 2008

i am freakin stoked

i just got my LaChapell Audio 583s

Chris · 11th March 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by pan60

i am freakin stoked

i just got my LaChapell Audio 583s

It always disturbs me a little to realize that the guy who uses more smilies than a 14 year old girl looks like he belongs in ZZ Top.

pan60 · 11th March 2008

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Originally Posted by Chris

It always disturbs me a little to realize that the guy who uses more smilies than a 14 year old girl looks like he belongs in ZZ Top.

LMAO

drmmrboy · 12th March 2008

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Originally Posted by drmmrboy

I'm holding out too. Got a few on the way, then I'll post a new pic.

A little fuzzy, but way cool platinum color on the MA5s.
Now I have to figure out where to put my 550b.. New 10 space rack..??

pan60 · 13th March 2008

fed-ex showed up again today, with another box, a new Photo tomorrow!!!

infopimpster · 13th March 2008

you tease

Docmattic · 13th March 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvertone

Here are a few of mine...

The Edyne 602's are part of Capitol Records Studio B console. The Q8 MM61 mic pre & eq's are from the Hollywood Bowl console and the Q8 compressor are from the Oral Roberts console (these are finally being wired up, yeah!). Not sure where the Melcors came out of.

How much did the 4 space lunchbox cost?

RuffJazzRecords · 13th March 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by pan60

i am freakin stoked

i just got my LaChapell Audio 583s

Hey Pan you got it..sweet. what transformer/tube did you get?

pan60 · 13th March 2008

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Originally Posted by RuffJazzRecords

Hey Pan you got it..sweet. what transformer/tube did you get?

yep!
and another cool peace! i will get some photos today: )~

ToneRanger · 13th March 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by pan60

yep!
and another cool peace! i will get some photos today: )~

Come on already!!!

Talked with FedEx today myself, will get the Avedis E27 tomorrow!!

And oh, almost forgot to mention, a Lawson MP47MkII

pan60 · 14th March 2008

i have been trying to get some photos up but it just wont happen: (~
i will try later.

pan60 · 14th March 2008

at last

i got my A-Design EM-PEQ and i am so stoked!

two buss duty

i will get some new gear in my rack and get so updated photos!

Rob King · 15th March 2008

As per Pan60's request..Here are my latest Lunchboxes. thumbsup

xj32 · 15th March 2008

I feel so dirty saying this to a guy, but Nice Rack Rob

XJ

RoundBadge · 15th March 2008

New "Lunchbox" arrived today...thumbsup

..

Surfkat · 15th March 2008

Yo, Roundbadge. What's that big rack in the background, Paul Bunyon's Lunchbox?

pan60 · 15th March 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by xj32

I feel so dirty saying this to a guy, but Nice Rack Rob

XJ

yes!
thanks Rob!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoundBadge

New "Lunchbox" arrived today...thumbsup

..

your sick : )~

RoundBadge · 15th March 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surfkat

Yo, Roundbadge. What's that big rack in the background, Paul Bunyon's Lunchbox?

Sculley 8 track 1 inch machine
The shit for drumsthumbsup

..

BLueROom · 15th March 2008

Just filled mine out today!

8th March 2008	#61
Silvertone Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 2,127 1 Review written	Here are a few of mine... The Edyne 602's are part of Capitol Records Studio B console. The Q8 MM61 mic pre & eq's are from the Hollywood Bowl console and the Q8 compressor are from the Oral Roberts console (these are finally being wired up, yeah!). Not sure where the Melcors came out of. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Larry DeVivo Silvertone Mastering, Inc. 518-581-8141 www.silvertonemastering.com To see some of our work please click on any of the visual trailer montages located at... http://robertetoll.com/ (all music and sound effects were mastered by Silvertone Mastering).

8th March 2008	#62
pan60 500 series nutjob Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: 500 series Guru SKANK! ; ) Posts: 10,749 Thread Starter	here's my new 500HR i snagged for testing units. with a pre ( the BIZZAR AUDIO MINT JULEP ), thats in for review: ) ~ Attached Thumbnails __________________ www.pan60.com Facebook BLAST PAD Inventor just one invention among others. A CHARTER MEMBER OF THE 500 FORMAT, MAFIA Never EVER let the quality of your tools dictate what you do and don't get done, that's irresponsible and disrespectful to yourself as well as the muse. Gregory Scott - ubk it is easy to sound as though one was endowed with great intelligence, whilst speaking amongst a crowd of total morons

9th March 2008	#63
daddykev Gear nut Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Eagle Rock (L.A.) Posts: 77	GR + Avedis = Heaven Attached Thumbnails

10th March 2008	#68
Halfmoon Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 166	Just one more slot to fill. Looking for variety IMG_1430a.jpg Attached Thumbnails

10th March 2008	#70
ImJohn Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: WA USA Posts: 1,438	Nathan has been kind enough to let me play with a Juggernaut for a little while. due to other stuff I have going on I really didn't spend as much time as i would of liked with it. I didn't do any direct sound comparisons to other pres and I only tried a few mics. And the picture doesn't really do it justice, especially the LED button, they look much better in person thumbsup bit i only had time for a quick handheld shot (no tripod or fancy lights) I'm really impressed with how well thought out the switching logic is! Only took a minute or so to figure out what was going on. (hey, the phantom switch is broken! OH! Never mind, just a clever delay for preventing accidents! ) Switching to different transformers automatically turns the mute on and off while it's switching etc. When I first opened it up I was a little concerned that the circuit boards the switches are mounted on flexed/moved a little bit too much but once I put it in my rack and powered it up, I realized that I was pressing way to hard on them initially. it only takes a medium light touch (but they do have a nice tacktile feel and there is no guessing if you pressed one or not, even if you aren't looking at the pretty lights!) The lighted switches look awesome but may be a little bright for some people. I think it would be cool if the clip led was actually a dimmer switch too but, if that's not possible maybe there could be a jumper somewhere in the card that end users could use to set the brightness. I played around with it as a DI for a electric bass and it sounded really nice. Clear yet full bodied. (if you could bottle the sound I bet people would drink it! ) I haven't really figured out the +THD switch yet. It seems to drop the output level quit a bit but I didn't record any of the bass stuff and listen back so it was hard to tell. I really need to try some electric guitar, DI and mic'd, while playing around with the +THD and Boost switches. Tonight I tried recording my drum set through it and it performed well! (unlike myself!) I just used a BLUE OmniMouse right into the Juggernaut. No problems at all. The OmniMouse I'm still experimenting with as an overhead and it seems to sound a tad dark for that use and really brings the toms forward a little to much (in it's current position at least) so I wish I would of had time to try a couple different mics. My initial impression is that the construction and sound quality of the Juggernaut puts it approximately in the same general leauge as many of the other top end 500 series modules I have tried (A-Designs, API, BAE, Shadow Hills) Looks and sounds great, is versitile and solidly built! Lot's of options and settings to explore!!! edit; I forgot to mention that I think the switch label graphics could use a little bit of a shift upwards. The labels are almost dead center between the switches and I often wasn't sure which switch did what until I looked at the top and bottom of the switch bank to remind myself if the labels are under or over the switch. A minor thing to be sure but i think it would make usage a little more intuitive. Attached Thumbnails __________________ John L Rice http://www.youtube.com/JohnLRice Last edited by ImJohn; 10th March 2008 at 07:59 AM.. Reason: I forgotted something

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Anselmo Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 521	What are the advantages of this 500 series gear... is it mainly a space saver??

9th March 2008	#66
johnnyjellybean Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,501	Let's not forget portability. How cool and versatile is it to walk into a session as a producer or a guitar player and to pull out a lunchbox full of killer pres ?

11th March 2008	#72
pan60 500 series nutjob Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: 500 series Guru SKANK! ; ) Posts: 10,749 Thread Starter	i am freakin stoked i just got my LaChapell Audio 583s Attached Thumbnails

13th March 2008	#76
pan60 500 series nutjob Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: 500 series Guru SKANK! ; ) Posts: 10,749 Thread Starter	fed-ex showed up again today, with another box, a new Photo tomorrow!!!

13th March 2008	#77
infopimpster Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santa Cruz Mountains Posts: 588	you tease

14th March 2008	#82
pan60 500 series nutjob Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: 500 series Guru SKANK! ; ) Posts: 10,749 Thread Starter	i have been trying to get some photos up but it just wont happen: (~ i will try later.

14th March 2008	#83
pan60 500 series nutjob Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: 500 series Guru SKANK! ; ) Posts: 10,749 Thread Starter	at last i got my A-Design EM-PEQ and i am so stoked! two buss duty i will get some new gear in my rack and get so updated photos! Attached Thumbnails

15th March 2008	#84
Rob King Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sherman Oaks Posts: 1,082	As per Pan60's request..Here are my latest Lunchboxes. thumbsup __________________ Rob King Green Street Studios My Production Gear List

15th March 2008	#85
xj32 Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 1,201	I feel so dirty saying this to a guy, but Nice Rack Rob XJ __________________ "...learning it is far different from getting a good sound out of it" Mike Caffrey "The gear doesn't really care what kind of music you pump through it, be it rap or classical " thethrillfactor "Maybe it doesn't sound much like the original, but given that only 0.00000000000000137% of the population would know and only 0.00000041% of those would care, I'm not too worried about it." Dean Roddey

15th March 2008	#86
RoundBadge Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles ,Ca. Posts: 8,754	New "Lunchbox" arrived today...thumbsup .. Attached Thumbnails

15th March 2008	#87
Surfkat Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Va / NJ Posts: 406	Yo, Roundbadge. What's that big rack in the background, Paul Bunyon's Lunchbox?

15th March 2008	#90
BLueROom Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SF, CA Posts: 1,405	Just filled mine out today!

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