Help recording kick drum without a "traditional" kick mic

PheelTheMusic · 15th February 2008, 05:02 AM

I'm doing a remote gig this weekend and I'll be forced to record a drum kit without any of my usual go to kick mics.

The options will thus be:

Neumann TLM103
Rode NT1A
Rode NT2A
Shure SM57
Shure SM58
AT3035

Will any of these cut it in a pinch or am I going to have to resort to laying in some kick samples to fill things out?

Kiwiburger · 15th February 2008, 05:04 AM

The 57 or 58 are worth a crack.

Kadden Heart · 15th February 2008, 05:13 AM

hell yeah.
make them sh*** work son.
lol

57 is nice, pull it away from the beater a LITTLE, push it to one side, and aim it towards the beater, this will help get more roundness but still click without al the traditional "ka-ram" of the 57.

AT will definitely work in the exact same position.
3/4 of the way towards the beater head. 45degree angle towards the beater, nice and round, some nice roominess. (check it, you amay have a lot of bleed)

the TLM could work in the same way,...BUT,... wouldn't you rather stick that on something else?

like always use your ears, and check it first.

PheelTheMusic · 15th February 2008, 05:16 AM

Thanks for the tips! The mics I listed above are all extras and free for kick duties so no worries about using the 103s elsewhere...

Kadden Heart · 15th February 2008, 05:26 AM

cool.
i'm actually kind of thinking the AT would be nicer than the TLM anyway.
maybe try them both really quickly ot see which one you prefer?
i'd side with the AT though.
what kind of music and what type of kick are you hoping to achieve??

PheelTheMusic · 15th February 2008, 05:37 AM

oh yeah, definitely should mention this is for a slightly funky rock band...

I'm looking for a nice deep yet well defined kick.

edvdr76 · 15th February 2008, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PheelTheMusic

I'm doing a remote gig this weekend and I'll be forced to record a drum kit without any of my usual go to kick mics.

The options will thus be:

Neumann TLM103
Rode NT1A
Rode NT2A
Shure SM57
Shure SM58
AT3035

Will any of these cut it in a pinch or am I going to have to resort to laying in some kick samples to fill things out?

You should use either the 57 or 58 inside the hole for the snap and the tlm 103 outside to catch some of the air. record them on seperate tracks and blend them in when you mix. Just watch for phasing.

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15th February 2008, 05:02 AM	#1
PheelTheMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Long Island, NY + Boston, MA Posts: 612	Help recording kick drum without a "traditional" kick mic I'm doing a remote gig this weekend and I'll be forced to record a drum kit without any of my usual go to kick mics. The options will thus be: Neumann TLM103 Rode NT1A Rode NT2A Shure SM57 Shure SM58 AT3035 Will any of these cut it in a pinch or am I going to have to resort to laying in some kick samples to fill things out? __________________ "Laziness is the worst trait an engineer can have, besides being deaf." - Roc Mixwell "...then we wouldn't have these mangled, distorted blocks of cheese that the major labels seem to call music." - danasti

15th February 2008, 05:13 AM	#3
Kadden Heart Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Orlando/San Fernando Valley Posts: 784	hell yeah. make them sh*** work son. lol 57 is nice, pull it away from the beater a LITTLE, push it to one side, and aim it towards the beater, this will help get more roundness but still click without al the traditional "ka-ram" of the 57. AT will definitely work in the exact same position. 3/4 of the way towards the beater head. 45degree angle towards the beater, nice and round, some nice roominess. (check it, you amay have a lot of bleed) the TLM could work in the same way,...BUT,... wouldn't you rather stick that on something else? like always use your ears, and check it first. __________________ "can we make the guitar louder,..and the snare, and kick,..and maybe the bass to, oh and the vocals, and maybe bring up the cymbals a little bit"

15th February 2008, 05:16 AM	#4
PheelTheMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Long Island, NY + Boston, MA Posts: 612	Thanks for the tips! The mics I listed above are all extras and free for kick duties so no worries about using the 103s elsewhere... __________________ "Laziness is the worst trait an engineer can have, besides being deaf." - Roc Mixwell "...then we wouldn't have these mangled, distorted blocks of cheese that the major labels seem to call music." - danasti

15th February 2008, 05:26 AM	#5
Kadden Heart Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Orlando/San Fernando Valley Posts: 784	cool. i'm actually kind of thinking the AT would be nicer than the TLM anyway. maybe try them both really quickly ot see which one you prefer? i'd side with the AT though. what kind of music and what type of kick are you hoping to achieve?? __________________ "can we make the guitar louder,..and the snare, and kick,..and maybe the bass to, oh and the vocals, and maybe bring up the cymbals a little bit"

15th February 2008, 05:04 AM	#2
Kiwiburger Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,821	The 57 or 58 are worth a crack.

15th February 2008, 05:37 AM	#6
PheelTheMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Long Island, NY + Boston, MA Posts: 612	oh yeah, definitely should mention this is for a slightly funky rock band... I'm looking for a nice deep yet well defined kick. __________________ "Laziness is the worst trait an engineer can have, besides being deaf." - Roc Mixwell "...then we wouldn't have these mangled, distorted blocks of cheese that the major labels seem to call music." - danasti

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