Oktava 012/Peluso CEMC6 Comparison

chingon · 2nd February 2008, 02:13 AM

I been searching for an upgrade on my Moded Okatava mc012 that I use mainly as overhead/guitar duty at my humble little closet studio. I found a Peluso CEMC6 on sale locally for a good price so i jumped on it to give it a go. Even though it was a single mic I'd figure i'll just pick up another down the road if i dig it and have a stereo pair.
My first thoughts upon listening to the Peluso was OUCH.... They sounded pretty darn crispy and harsh and wasn't digging it as a drum overhead. I liked it on guitar though and found i didn't have to EQ like i would with the Oktava. So i began to wunder, "is this mic harsh sounding or is it that the Oktava's are little on the dark/muddy side and i'm just used to there sound after years of use and anything else will sound crispy/bright to me. So i figured i'll hear what it sounds like in context of a mix and lay down a groove.

I'd figure i'd post some soundclips comparing the 2 for those wanting to give them a listen. The soundclips are of 1 drum overhead and my swap meet piece of crap guitar so you slutz can hear the difference in the 2. I used SCA J99 preamps, Mic placement was pretty much the same for both and tracked 1 (same) performance. There was no processing done of any kind on the mics or anything else. WARNING, i'm a hack guitarist and drummer so go ahead and talk your trash please.

disclaimer. These clips and post prove absolutely nothing so if your in the mood to talk smack, stroke yourself with scientific pompesnous or anything else stupid PM me so I give you my address and you can come kiss my A$$...............lol... J/k.....no i'm not.

EDIT!
Will post new sound clips

maxsample · 14th February 2008, 07:46 AM

Thanks,
I've been considering both of these mics for a while now. Glad to have an A/B.

HeavyG · 14th February 2008, 05:08 PM

The Oktava seemed a bit "warmer" on both the drum and guitar samples. It had nice depth and resolution. The Peluso was noticeably brighter, with similar depth and resolution...so I would say the one thing that stands out to my ears is the Peluso's brighter soundscape...perhaps necessitating some manipulation to get a warmer sound.

Good mics...both of them.

Ciozzi · 14th February 2008, 07:47 PM

I usually tend to prefer darker mic's but in this case my vote is for the Peluso. It's got more glue IMO.

Michael_Joly · 14th February 2008, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chingon

I been searching for an upgrade on my Moded Okatava mc012....

Are your samples above a older "Dorsey mod" MC-012 or a relatively new OktavaMod MC-012? I ask because the "Dorsey mod" was published six years ago and was intended as a DIY project using commonly-available parts not requiring equipment to set FET gain or bias. Better results can be obtained with a bit more work, judicious parts selection and favorable topology changes.

chingon · 14th February 2008, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael_Joly

Are your samples above a older "Dorsey mod" MC-012 or a relatively new OktavaMod MC-012? I ask because the "Dorsey mod" was published six years ago and was intended as a DIY project using commonly-available parts not requiring equipment to set FET gain or bias. Better results can be obtained with a bit more work and judicious parts selection and topology changes.

They are from the Dorsey Mod which was done about 3-4 years ago by a member. I think it was Flatpicker. How much more judicious work does your mod provide over the dorsey mod? How more different is your mod? What kind of "Better Results" would i expect over the dorsey mod?

I have one of your PE 319 and it gets a whole lot of use at my place so i know what kind of work you can do.

monkeyxx · 26th March 2008, 03:55 AM

I will bite on your invite.

the guitar playing / guitar itself is too terrible (and too brief) to make a judgement there.

having heard extensive samples of each microphone elsewhere though, I have to say I've always preferred the pelusos on acoustic guitar. in fact I own a pair and they provide the most breathtaking results of any mic I own, I love em. magical, for me, on acoustic guitar, and I'm a guitarist more than anything

the drum part I like! I can see clearly that the oktavas sound better there, more "laid back". I don't like the CEMC6 on overheads in my place either, a little sharp / thin / hollow, or something. they do make a cool room mic, though, to pick up that nice big "epic cymbal wash" sound.

I might have to pick up some oktavas for overheads! makes me think "beefheart" (trout mask, which is one of my highest references)

ok now you can tell me again to go fk myself

monkeyxx · 26th March 2008, 03:57 AM

furthermore if you're wanting people to participate and humor you, you might try refraining from insulting us before we even reply! that was pretty unpleasant stuff to read at the top of a post

johnnybregar · 26th March 2008, 04:51 AM

Do post some clips of a guitar player sometime, playing something other than an entry level Epiphone...

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2nd February 2008, 02:13 AM	#1
chingon Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 211	Oktava 012/Peluso CEMC6 Comparison I been searching for an upgrade on my Moded Okatava mc012 that I use mainly as overhead/guitar duty at my humble little closet studio. I found a Peluso CEMC6 on sale locally for a good price so i jumped on it to give it a go. Even though it was a single mic I'd figure i'll just pick up another down the road if i dig it and have a stereo pair. My first thoughts upon listening to the Peluso was OUCH.... They sounded pretty darn crispy and harsh and wasn't digging it as a drum overhead. I liked it on guitar though and found i didn't have to EQ like i would with the Oktava. So i began to wunder, "is this mic harsh sounding or is it that the Oktava's are little on the dark/muddy side and i'm just used to there sound after years of use and anything else will sound crispy/bright to me. So i figured i'll hear what it sounds like in context of a mix and lay down a groove. I'd figure i'd post some soundclips comparing the 2 for those wanting to give them a listen. The soundclips are of 1 drum overhead and my swap meet piece of crap guitar so you slutz can hear the difference in the 2. I used SCA J99 preamps, Mic placement was pretty much the same for both and tracked 1 (same) performance. There was no processing done of any kind on the mics or anything else. WARNING, i'm a hack guitarist and drummer so go ahead and talk your trash please. disclaimer. These clips and post prove absolutely nothing so if your in the mood to talk smack, stroke yourself with scientific pompesnous or anything else stupid PM me so I give you my address and you can come kiss my A$$...............lol... J/k.....no i'm not. EDIT! Will post new sound clips

14th February 2008, 05:08 PM	#3
HeavyG Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 557	Mic Shootout The Oktava seemed a bit "warmer" on both the drum and guitar samples. It had nice depth and resolution. The Peluso was noticeably brighter, with similar depth and resolution...so I would say the one thing that stands out to my ears is the Peluso's brighter soundscape...perhaps necessitating some manipulation to get a warmer sound. Good mics...both of them. __________________ Nelly Drummer, Vocalist, Project Studio Stunt Pilot “My vocation is more in composition really than anything else - building up harmonies using the guitar, orchestrating the guitar like an army, a guitar army.” Jimmy Page

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14th February 2008, 07:46 AM	#2
maxsample Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 16	Thanks, I've been considering both of these mics for a while now. Glad to have an A/B.

14th February 2008, 07:47 PM	#4
Ciozzi Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 310	I usually tend to prefer darker mic's but in this case my vote is for the Peluso. It's got more glue IMO.

26th March 2008, 03:55 AM	#7
monkeyxx Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 175	I will bite on your invite. the guitar playing / guitar itself is too terrible (and too brief) to make a judgement there. having heard extensive samples of each microphone elsewhere though, I have to say I've always preferred the pelusos on acoustic guitar. in fact I own a pair and they provide the most breathtaking results of any mic I own, I love em. magical, for me, on acoustic guitar, and I'm a guitarist more than anything the drum part I like! I can see clearly that the oktavas sound better there, more "laid back". I don't like the CEMC6 on overheads in my place either, a little sharp / thin / hollow, or something. they do make a cool room mic, though, to pick up that nice big "epic cymbal wash" sound. I might have to pick up some oktavas for overheads! makes me think "beefheart" (trout mask, which is one of my highest references) ok now you can tell me again to go fk myself

26th March 2008, 03:57 AM	#8
monkeyxx Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 175	furthermore if you're wanting people to participate and humor you, you might try refraining from insulting us before we even reply! that was pretty unpleasant stuff to read at the top of a post

26th March 2008, 04:51 AM	#9
johnnybregar Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 255	Do post some clips of a guitar player sometime, playing something other than an entry level Epiphone...