AT4033 or AT4050 for vocals?
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15th January 2008
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AT4033 or AT4050 for vocals?

The used price is similar for these two microphone ($75-$100), considering their rather substantial large retail price difference. Which do you prefer for vocals, which is what I'd primarily be using it for. My other vocal microphones are a AKG C414 and Shure SM7B.
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4050, for sure. the price difference is negligible, but the difference between a 2-capsule design and a single capsule design is significant in my experience. the ability to switch patterns when needed can also be quite handy. the AT4050 is surely the best mic in its price range, and i greatly prefer them to the TLM103's i had.
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+1 for the 4050.....although I actually prefer the AT3035 over the 4050 for most vocals (I own both), but the 4050 is an amazingly useful mic for lots of stuff.
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I wish I could buy either of these mics or both for 100 bucks each.
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I wish I could buy either of these mics or both for 100 bucks each.
I'm with ya'!
4050 is a great mic...
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yep - 4050s sound pretty darn good for their price
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the 4050 for vocals...Or maybe even research the 4047 a bit...I hear that's pretty good on vocals, a lot of people prefer it over the 4050
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Either one is good. The 4033 is really bright, which can help the vocal cut through the band, but can also lead to problems with sibilance. The 4050 is a little flatter, with more bass.
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on the audio-technica audio clips it seems like the 4050 has more high end and would cut through more and the 33 seemed more flat...so i dunno, I would have to hear it in a mix...the 4050 sounds better to my ears for vocals
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Male or female vocals? It can be really great on some female voice. It is also worthy on acoustic guitars.
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Either one is good. The 4033 is really bright, which can help the vocal cut through the band, but can also lead to problems with sibilance. The 4050 is a little flatter, with more bass.
This has been my experience with these two mics as well. The sibilance issue with the 4033 can be addressed by angling the mic back away from the singer a bit. Both are great mics for the $$$.

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75.00 to 100.00 used? Ouch! I paid 400.00 for a used 4050 in the box.
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The used price is similar for these two microphone ($75-$100), considering their rather substantial large retail price difference. Which do you prefer for vocals, which is what I'd primarily be using it for. My other vocal microphones are a AKG C414 and Shure SM7B.
wow ... ya...didn't see that price...how the hell would you get either for 100? even 200? The cheapest I see anywhere online is around 400 dollars...maybe a little less if it's really used
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wow ... ya...didn't see that price...how the hell would you get either for 100? even 200? The cheapest I see anywhere online is around 400 dollars...maybe a little less if it's really used

A couple of months ago, I paid $375 shipped for mine, there's no way these are selling for $100-200.

Glad to hear some folks like these mics, as this was my selection for my "do-it-all" mic. As I build a decent recording rig, I'm intending on using it for vocals and drum overheads. I do really like it on the vocals so far, so I think it'll get a lot of use and if I need a warmer tone, I'll mess with a warm tube mic pre.
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I've never used a 4050 but I really like 4033 for deep bassier singers and the 4047 for higher register singers, both are great mics imo
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OP could mean that the difference in price for a used 4033 or 4050 is less than $100 so which is the better buy

I had the 4033 for a while but it got shelved once I got a 4047- very cool mic on many things
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I should have clarified, the AT4050 is usually $75 or $100 more used than a AT4033a and I wanted to know if it was worth the extra cash.
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i like my AT4033 for vocals. it works for my voice and also works great as a single mic to capture intimate finger picking and vocals. the sound is a bit bumpy in the high end which cuts a little here and boosts a little there, but I like it a lot.

i think the at4050 would be worth it for the extra patterns but if you're just going to use it in cardiod you might want to try the 4033 before you decide you need something more
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i like my AT4033 for vocals. it works for my voice and also works great as a single mic to capture intimate finger picking and vocals. the sound is a bit bumpy in the high end which cuts a little here and boosts a little there, but I like it a lot.

i think the at4050 would be worth it for the extra patterns but if you're just going to use it in cardiod you might want to try the 4033 before you decide you need something more
I own both mics, the 4033 seems to fit more vocal apps, but on some singers the 4050 is a better choice. I agree that the 4050 would be a more universal mic for recording other things-choice of patterns, etc..... Would love to know where someone could possibly find a functioning one for $100!!!!!!!
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I meant I see used AT4033a go between $150-$200 and AT4050 go for $250-$300 used, so the difference in price is not that big.

But, if I could find either microphone for $75-$100 I would buy as many as I could.
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I tried the 4050 next to a Sounddeluxe U99 tube mic and we were very impressed with it. I might pick one up as it seemed to function as a good general application mic. I think it was Ed Cherney who said it was one of his go to mics (for general purpose). If it wasn't Ed it was someone of similar status (Ainley, maybe). I'd agree with others that you'd get less overall use out of a 4033 than the 4050. As someone else mentioned, the 4047 is like a more refined version of the 4033 -bright in a similar way but not as brittle sounding. I own a 4047 and it's good when you want that modern upper midrange bright sound.
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For me, the AT4033 has a very grating sound to it. I can hear it's signature abrasiveness through just about any mix.

I know many love them, but it really is one mic I have never liked.

YMMV.

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Try the 4033 on a deep bassier singer and you may change your mind!
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Like any filter, I am sure something could sound good through it...but, I won't be buying one any time soon.

I have heard the 4050, and liked that quite a bit better as a general vocal mic.

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Haven't used the 4033, but I think I remember an AT rep telling me that in cardioid (on the 4050) they're very similar. I use 2 4050's for M/S stereo room mics and use the omni for acoustic guitars and percussion sometimes. For my use, having the different polar patterns is a must for a large diaphragm condenser. For some singers the 4050 has beaten out a 47, 414, c12VR and 87. Price isn't always the determining factor for how good something is. By the way, Audio Technica probably has some of the best bang for the buck mics on the market. AT sent me a bunch of stuff a few years ago and I've been using a lot of it ever since, even with the vintage standards available.
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I tried the 4050 next to a Sounddeluxe U99 tube mic and we were very impressed with it. I might pick one up as it seemed to function as a good general application mic. I think it was Ed Cherney who said it was one of his go to mics (for general purpose). If it wasn't Ed it was someone of similar status (Ainley, maybe). I'd agree with others that you'd get less overall use out of a 4033 than the 4050. As someone else mentioned, the 4047 is like a more refined version of the 4033 -bright in a similar way but not as brittle sounding. I own a 4047 and it's good when you want that modern upper midrange bright sound.
I definitely don't think of the 4033 "brittle sounding". A bit on the brighter side, but not brittle.

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If you can get a 4050 for $75 more than a 4033, GO FOR IT!
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