Would you like someone to develop gates for the 500 series?

Jamz · 14th January 2008

With all of the companies creating modules for the 500 series...I don't see any gates.
I realize DAWs have perhaps lessened the need but I still find times when they'd be damn useful.

pan60 · 14th January 2008

i say yes for all things 500!!!!!

stevetgn · 14th January 2008

Yes love one, as long as it is feature full like a DS201 and can be linked and externally keyed.
If it's a limited "how do you want it? open or closed?" kinda product then there is no point.

stevetgn · 14th January 2008

in fact, make it a dual gate, double slot unit for me

I reckon Tim, Mr Buzz Audio himself would come up with the perfect solution here! Expander & Gate pleeeze!

Jamz · 14th January 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall

Urie 7510A modules have gates on em... they are lunchbox size.. I have 5 of them at 4 channels per module.. killer pre-amps as well... hmmm.. makes one wonder

Can they be placed in a 500 series rack?

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevegtn

Yes love one, as long as it is feature full like a DS201 and can be linked and externally keyed.
If it's a limited "how do you want it? open or closed?" kinda product then there is no point.

How do you feel about the API 235L gate (200 series)?

Chrome Dome · 14th January 2008

I think there should be any and everything 500 format. I'm trying to work something out for a set of 500 series compressors. Just don't know what brand. And it's also harder to buy a pair used.

Dickens · 14th January 2008

I wonder why API makes one for the 200 series but not the 500!?

FossilTooth · 14th January 2008

Why would I want to take up valuable lunchbox space with some gates?

Chris Parsons · 14th January 2008

People still use analog gates? Why? DAW gates and wonderful because of "look-ahead" which really makes the gate more functional and accurate. I can't think of one advantage to an analog gate, if i'm missing something please correct me.

Jamz · 14th January 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Parsons

People still use analog gates? Why? DAW gates and wonderful because of "look-ahead" which really makes the gate more functional and accurate. I can't think of one advantage to an analog gate, if i'm missing something please correct me.

Do you ever record with DAW gates or do you use them for mixing only?

stevetgn · 14th January 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Parsons

People still use analog gates? Why? DAW gates and wonderful because of "look-ahead" which really makes the gate more functional and accurate. I can't think of one advantage to an analog gate, if i'm missing something please correct me.

I don't know of a DAW gate that offers the control of something like the Drawmer DS201 and when you are wanting downward expansion good hardware just sounds better. Plus when you mix OTB and are using a lot of other outboard, and keying this thing off the other, its much easier than using a plug... I like gates

stevetgn · 14th January 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamz

Can they be placed in a 500 series rack?
How do you feel about the API 235L gate (200 series)?

I've never used or owned anything API that I didn't REALLY like. However I've never used any 200 series products. Its just the though of having to buy yet another format of rack that puts me off and have you seen the price of the 200 12 slot rack

.

Its a shame really because a lot of the 200 series modules look very cool.

Jamz · 14th January 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevetgn

I've never used or owned anything API that I didn't REALLY like. However I've never used any 200 series products. Its just the though of having to buy yet another format of rack that puts me off and have you seen the price of the 200 12 slot rack

.

Its a shame really because a lot of the 200 series modules look very cool.

Agreed! So I'm just sayin...500 series gates!....Drawmer...someone...anyone.
I think it would be a good idea.

stevetgn · 14th January 2008

I wish Buzz would come up with something, I really like their gear.
I've got a few of the SSL X-Rack dynamic modules which have gates along with the comps, but it would be nice to have a few separate dedicated gates/dw expanders. Plus I'm getting a second 10 slot rack soon so I'll have slots to fill!

**Tim Farrant** · 15th January 2008

Noted....

Snatchman · 15th January 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Farrant

Noted....

..

..Way to go Tim....

stevetgn · 15th January 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Farrant

Noted....

He noted, He noted!

I'm 38 years old, is it time I grew up?

Wes Kuhnley · 15th January 2008

external linking, and key in/outputs will be hard given the limited I/O of the standard 500 series chassis. why not use your DAW?

Jamz · 15th January 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Farrant

Noted....

I've got my eyes on the Potion to start off the 3rd 500 series rack

stevetgn · 15th January 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamz

I've got my eyes on the Potion to start off the 3rd 500 series rack

The Potion is an absolute gem of a compressor. Got mine a couple of months ago and I think it's superb. I'll be having another as soon as buget allows.

pan60 · 15th January 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Farrant

Noted....

rockyroad · 16th January 2008

Krazy thought? couldn't the gate functions be included in 500 series compressers?

**Tim Farrant** · 17th January 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Krazy thought? couldn't the gate functions be included in 500 series compressers?

With a VCA based compressor, implementing a gate is relatively easy, it's a bit harder to do the side chain with a FET based compressor, and of course front panel space makes it impossible to get compressor and gate controls on.

pan60 · 28th February 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Farrant

Noted....

well we need more then noted Tim: )~
give some details.

JVstyle Productions · 25th April 2008

can i just say their is a 500 series gate. they just don't make it anymore. it comes with the 525b. I'v always wanted more info on this peace of gear but it seems no one knows it exists.

just thought id add.

but please someone make a new one. it is in demand!!!!!

Benmrx · 25th April 2008

Another YES vote over hear.

IMHO, software gates are great for utilitarian tasks. Same as most plugins I use. But for something like toms? I know I can get them to "pop" way more with a DS201 than a software gate.

Plus, as noted earlier, trying to use software gates, when mixing (even hybrid) on a console is a huge pain, and sometimes just plain doesn't work.

So, Yes, someone should make a 500 series gate. Maybe the key/sidechain input can be on the front panel of the unit? And if there was somehow a way to link 2 units for stereo that would be great. There could potentially also be a "slave" unit for stereo linking. Something with basically zero controls, but sits to the right of the main unit, and they're somehow linked inside the 500 series frame.

Someone also needs to make a nice HP/LP filter for the 500 series. HP should at least go to 800hz, and the LP down to 2K. If it was stepped I'd be stoked. Did the "shinybox" ones ever come out?

stagefright13 · 25th April 2008

Gates were only useful when I used tape in the 80's lol. They made mixing easier for drums or a noisy guitar. IMHO are useless now if you went digital.

If you are going to tape with a console they STILL are very useful tho. Same as they always have been. I have 8. Never use the gates now. I use look ahead if in a hurry or edit.

Waste of a good lunchbox spot. Oh btw I need a bigger lunchbox bad...

And my Loft gates have 4 limiters and 4 gates in a 1u rack. I think you should be able to squeeze 1 into a 500 panel. Also have sidechain input. But useless these days. But the limiters are fast and accurate. And do a straight bypass when not in use.

Phrygian · 25th April 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by JVVI

can i just say their is a 500 series gate. they just don't make it anymore. it comes with the 525b. I'v always wanted more info on this peace of gear but it seems no one knows it exists.

I've always wanted to try the 525b. Man, it looks like they tried to fit so much into that one unit, it's crazy!

As for the API 200 series gate (the 235L) ...pricey for a little guy!

Lucin Niega · 31st December 2008

CHARGING...beep...beep...beep...CLEAR! stike

What's up with the 500 series gate?

No, seriously?

Tom H · 31st December 2008

a gate in combination with a transient designer and/or limiter would be cool!

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14th January 2008	#1
Jamz Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Bucks County/Philly, PA Posts: 2,344 Thread Starter	Would you like someone to develop gates for the 500 series? With all of the companies creating modules for the 500 series...I don't see any gates. I realize DAWs have perhaps lessened the need but I still find times when they'd be damn useful. __________________ Jim Salamone http://cambridgesoundstudios.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Newtow...9272438?ref=ts http://www.reverbnation.com/cambridgesoundstudios

14th January 2008	#6
Chrome Dome Gear maniac Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 158	I think there should be any and everything 500 format. I'm trying to work something out for a set of 500 series compressors. Just don't know what brand. And it's also harder to buy a pair used. __________________ "How many OHMS is the transformer. How many OHMS?"The answer, for those new to transformers is "The primary impedance is equal to the square of the turns ratio, multiplied by the load impedance." --hyperlight-research.

14th January 2008	#9
Chris Parsons Lives for gear Joined: May 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 710	People still use analog gates? Why? DAW gates and wonderful because of "look-ahead" which really makes the gate more functional and accurate. I can't think of one advantage to an analog gate, if i'm missing something please correct me. __________________ ****A proud user of 44.1/24**** http://www.pforeststudio.com

15th January 2008	#18
Wes Kuhnley Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 596	external linking, and key in/outputs will be hard given the limited I/O of the standard 500 series chassis. why not use your DAW? __________________ Resonant Electronic Design "If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe." -Carl Sagan

14th January 2008	#2
pan60 500 series nutjob Joined: Nov 2004 Location: 500 series Guru SKANK! ; ) Posts: 10,940	i say yes for all things 500!!!!!

14th January 2008	#3
stevetgn Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2006 Location: ITB now unfortunately! Posts: 1,725	Yes love one, as long as it is feature full like a DS201 and can be linked and externally keyed. If it's a limited "how do you want it? open or closed?" kinda product then there is no point.

14th January 2008	#7
Dickens Gear maniac Joined: Feb 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 165	I wonder why API makes one for the 200 series but not the 500!?

14th January 2008	#8
FossilTooth Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 920	Why would I want to take up valuable lunchbox space with some gates?

15th January 2008	#15
Tim Farrant Moderator Joined: Jun 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,412	Noted....

16th January 2008	#22
rockyroad Gear nut Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 144	Krazy thought? couldn't the gate functions be included in 500 series compressers?

25th April 2008	#25
JVstyle Productions Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Mpls Posts: 348	can i just say their is a 500 series gate. they just don't make it anymore. it comes with the 525b. I'v always wanted more info on this peace of gear but it seems no one knows it exists. just thought id add. but please someone make a new one. it is in demand!!!!!

25th April 2008	#26
Benmrx Lives for gear Joined: May 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 4,300	Another YES vote over hear. IMHO, software gates are great for utilitarian tasks. Same as most plugins I use. But for something like toms? I know I can get them to "pop" way more with a DS201 than a software gate. Plus, as noted earlier, trying to use software gates, when mixing (even hybrid) on a console is a huge pain, and sometimes just plain doesn't work. So, Yes, someone should make a 500 series gate. Maybe the key/sidechain input can be on the front panel of the unit? And if there was somehow a way to link 2 units for stereo that would be great. There could potentially also be a "slave" unit for stereo linking. Something with basically zero controls, but sits to the right of the main unit, and they're somehow linked inside the 500 series frame. Someone also needs to make a nice HP/LP filter for the 500 series. HP should at least go to 800hz, and the LP down to 2K. If it was stepped I'd be stoked. Did the "shinybox" ones ever come out? __________________ www.mysteriousredx.com "Sorry man I played guitar instead of going to school." -- James Lugo

25th April 2008	#27
stagefright13 Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,221	Gates were only useful when I used tape in the 80's lol. They made mixing easier for drums or a noisy guitar. IMHO are useless now if you went digital. If you are going to tape with a console they STILL are very useful tho. Same as they always have been. I have 8. Never use the gates now. I use look ahead if in a hurry or edit. Waste of a good lunchbox spot. Oh btw I need a bigger lunchbox bad... And my Loft gates have 4 limiters and 4 gates in a 1u rack. I think you should be able to squeeze 1 into a 500 panel. Also have sidechain input. But useless these days. But the limiters are fast and accurate. And do a straight bypass when not in use. __________________ Stagefrightrecords.com

31st December 2008	#29
Lucin Niega Gear maniac Joined: Jun 2006 Location: North Hollywood Posts: 240	CHARGING...beep...beep...beep...CLEAR! stike What's up with the 500 series gate? No, seriously? __________________ Later Dude!

31st December 2008	#30
Tom H Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Haarlem, Holland Posts: 1,387	a gate in combination with a transient designer and/or limiter would be cool!

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