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Old 11th January 2008, 09:56 PM   #1
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Batch tuning in Melodyne --Any experts out there?

Hi there,

I have a very specific need for Melodyne. Basically I need to "Batch Pitch Correct" thousands of samples to "Correct Pitch Center" with zero "Correct Pitch Drift"

Based on Joerg's (Head of Product Support) recommendation, I downloaded the demo of Melodyne Studio because he said it was possible but I should try it to see if it would suit my needs. Just so you know, I did post some questions on the Melodyne forum... but it's REALLY quiet over there and... well.. I thought some power users over here may be able to shed some light on how to do this.


I've scanned the manual and loaded many samples into the arrangement window and also tried things in the Melody Manager, but I can't see a way to "Batch Tune" samples in folders. I've spent the better part of a day trying to figure this out.

I heard Tuning still has to be done manually, but using the Correct Pitch macro should make this fast and easy.

Any ideas how I can load 1000s of samples into Melodyne and then save them in a "tuned" state?

Thanks for any help.

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Old 11th January 2008, 11:44 PM   #2
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A little "bumperoonie" before this falls off the first page...
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Old 12th January 2008, 12:01 AM   #3
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I might be mistaken, but I don't think that Melodyne can be used in a batch-processing scenario. I recall reading that it couldn't be used in Wavelab because it requires timing/tempo information that a regular DAW will provide but that a dedicated editor does not.

Therefore, I would speculate that it can't be used in an offline capacity, which I would imagine is essential for batch processing.

Have you hit up the Celemony forums? Somebody there oughtta know for sure.
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Perhaps you could concatenate the wavs at regularly spaced intervals, tune the whole WAV file with a single pitch correct operation, then split them back apart. Something like Matlab would make this easy but there should be simpler tools for concatenation and splitting of samples.
After talking to various people, I think this is the way to go.

Export all the files as 1 big one with (say) a second of silence between all of them... and the process it in Melodyne... then re-import it into Nuendo (in my case) and then detect silence and re-export... voila. not too bad actually.

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I don't think melodyne is a good enough program to
accurately pitch correct 1000 files without issues.
Ca nyou select a scale or mode? Im not sure

I mean if a note is in between intervals which is the correct note?
Do I move the note sharp or do I go flat? That's is easy for
a human to know but melodyne is not that intelligent.

Autotune is better cuz you can select a scale or mode
Maybe Melodyne can with newer version but the version I have can't

Melodyne has a dx plugin now correct? Soundforge has
batch mode correct? Try that. I batch corrected with atuotune before
with that method. It worked great.

You could always use windows automation with VB or C++
The CWND class has all the functions to control all aspects of
the Windows shell and some of the kernel. If you are on a mac
I'm sure there is way. In fact I bet it is easier than windows
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I don't think melodyne is a good enough program to
accurately pitch correct 1000 files without issues.
Ca nyou select a scale or mode? Im not sure

I mean if a note is in between intervals which is the correct note?
Do I move the note sharp or do I go flat? That's is easy for
a human to know but melodyne is not that intelligent.

Autotune is better cuz you can select a scale or mode
Maybe Melodyne can with newer version but the version I have can't

Melodyne has a dx plugin now correct? Soundforge has
batch mode correct? Try that. I batch corrected with atuotune before
with that method. It worked great.

You could always use windows automation with VB or C++
The CWND class has all the functions to control all aspects of
the Windows shell and some of the kernel. If you are on a mac
I'm sure there is way. In fact I bet it is easier than windows
I see what you mean. However, perfromance is very accurate and was recorded to a piano reference track (that was perfectly in tune) so there are no issues with detecting the correct pitch. I tried it and Melodyne was dead on. Plus, the Correct Center Pitch (or whatever it's called) is really what I want to do... not really "autotune" because I want to keep the pitch variance in the samples intact... just tune the sample's average pitch by a few cents to get it 100% playable with other instruments.

Imagine a Shakuhatchi that plays a sustained note... but the variances give it all this great character. If you auto tune it.. it will kill the character... but if you just pitch shift it to a "Correct Center Pitch" then it's in tune while keeping the performance intact.

Thanks again guys... you've all been a great help.

Cheers,

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