Mytek A/D, Sampling Rate

cl516 · 13th June 2004, 06:09 AM

If I'm using a Mytek Stereo96 A/D
and spdif into a digi 001 at 44.1,

would there be a notice-able difference
if I upgraded to a digi 002 rack and go from Mytek to spdif Digi 002 and worked at either 88.2 or 96k?

what y'all think? thanks.

cl516 · 13th June 2004, 07:10 AM

i know, i know,
this shit is endless,

i'm not trying to talk about the theory...
i know it can sound different with each converter and filter, i just kinda wanna hear for those who have specifically dealt with the 002 and the mytek...

sorta grab a quick consensus whether to stay 24/44.1 or move up to 48 or move up to 96...

...and then go back to making more music.

liquidpyramid · 13th June 2004, 07:57 AM

Ok, no, I haven't used that equipment, but in general, 96k is a VERY noticable jump from 44.1k . Do it.

Albert · 13th June 2004, 04:36 PM

I found more of a difference going from 16 to 24 bits than from 48k to 96k. So with a good converter like the Mytek you might not hear that dramatic of a difference. Or at least a difference big enough to warrant using the extra storage and processing resources.

It also depends on the sources being recorded. If you are recording acoustic sources you'd hear more of a difference than if recording synths.

cl516 · 13th June 2004, 06:10 PM

aha!
that's what i figured too...

for my own music it's more synth stuff, even though there's vocals.

but for other projects i'm doing, it's strictly acoustic guitar and female singer songwriter, so i figure those projects might benefit from it...

still, this is at least an $800 investment, plus the long term extra storage space... oh man.

NathanEldred · 13th June 2004, 08:40 PM

The differences I've heard between 44.1k and 96k using good conversion is minimal IMO. There is a difference, but to say one is "better" than the other is really very hard to do. Like Albert said, there is a huge difference between 24 and 16 bits.

Albert · 14th June 2004, 01:38 AM

I'd say put the money where you will get the most noticable audio improvement. Not knowing what you are using other than the Mytek and the 001, you may want to consider spending money on something like upgrading a mic or preamp. Unless you already have great stuff in that regard.

I like to hear my money, and try to spend it only on items that provide a clearly audible improvement. You will ultimately be listening to your recordings at 16/44.1, so 96k might not provide as much bang for the buck as upgrading something else.

cl516 · 14th June 2004, 02:07 AM

i think y 'all are right,
the worst part is each file would take twice the space.

genericperson · 14th June 2004, 09:06 PM

i'm more of a bit fiend myself rather than high sample rate. higher sample rates actually *decrease* your signal to noise ratio... go figure!

i'd do 48k/32bit mixdown if it were possible.

primomusic · 6th July 2004, 06:19 AM

how are those myteks ad/da, they are pretty expensive. why would u choose is over lavry, hedd. does it sound better.

Bob Olhsson · 6th July 2004, 03:49 PM

Your final CD might easily sound worse than just working at 44.1! Even if you can have a pro mastering job done that sounds marginally better, your ruffs and client copies are likely to take a pretty big quality hit if you have to use digi's sample rate conversions.

cl516 · 23rd January 2005, 05:53 AM

...6 months later.

Ok, I agree there will definitely be a quality hit using Digi's SRC.

Taking into account what was said in this thread,

how about doing everything at 96k,
then mytek DA out into mytek AD 16/44.1 into an HHB burner? So no software SRC then...

Or is that still shite?

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13th June 2004, 06:09 AM	#1
cl516 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 840	Mytek A/D, Sampling Rate If I'm using a Mytek Stereo96 A/D and spdif into a digi 001 at 44.1, would there be a notice-able difference if I upgraded to a digi 002 rack and go from Mytek to spdif Digi 002 and worked at either 88.2 or 96k? what y'all think? thanks.

13th June 2004, 04:36 PM	#4
Albert Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,483	I found more of a difference going from 16 to 24 bits than from 48k to 96k. So with a good converter like the Mytek you might not hear that dramatic of a difference. Or at least a difference big enough to warrant using the extra storage and processing resources. It also depends on the sources being recorded. If you are recording acoustic sources you'd hear more of a difference than if recording synths. __________________ http://www.misterpotts.com http://www.myspace.com/albypottsmusic

13th June 2004, 08:40 PM	#6
NathanEldred Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Central Florida Posts: 5,462	The differences I've heard between 44.1k and 96k using good conversion is minimal IMO. There is a difference, but to say one is "better" than the other is really very hard to do. Like Albert said, there is a huge difference between 24 and 16 bits. __________________ Nathan Eldred Atlas Pro Audio- Boutique Gear, Consultation, Sales, & Distibution Home of the Atlas Juggernaut Preamp & 500 Series Revolver Rack USA Distributor for Buzz Audio Exclusive Worldwide Distributor for Atlas Pro Audio Gear, Old School Audio (OSA), and Burgin McDaniel Design Atlas Recording Studios, Inc. Recording/Mixing/Mastering Services

14th June 2004, 01:38 AM	#7
Albert Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,483	I'd say put the money where you will get the most noticable audio improvement. Not knowing what you are using other than the Mytek and the 001, you may want to consider spending money on something like upgrading a mic or preamp. Unless you already have great stuff in that regard. I like to hear my money, and try to spend it only on items that provide a clearly audible improvement. You will ultimately be listening to your recordings at 16/44.1, so 96k might not provide as much bang for the buck as upgrading something else. __________________ http://www.misterpotts.com http://www.myspace.com/albypottsmusic

13th June 2004, 07:10 AM	#2
cl516 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 840	i know, i know, this shit is endless, i'm not trying to talk about the theory... i know it can sound different with each converter and filter, i just kinda wanna hear for those who have specifically dealt with the 002 and the mytek... sorta grab a quick consensus whether to stay 24/44.1 or move up to 48 or move up to 96... ...and then go back to making more music.

13th June 2004, 07:57 AM	#3
liquidpyramid Gear interested Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8	Ok, no, I haven't used that equipment, but in general, 96k is a VERY noticable jump from 44.1k . Do it.

13th June 2004, 06:10 PM	#5
cl516 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 840	aha! that's what i figured too... for my own music it's more synth stuff, even though there's vocals. but for other projects i'm doing, it's strictly acoustic guitar and female singer songwriter, so i figure those projects might benefit from it... still, this is at least an $800 investment, plus the long term extra storage space... oh man.

14th June 2004, 02:07 AM	#8
cl516 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 840	i think y 'all are right, the worst part is each file would take twice the space.

14th June 2004, 09:06 PM	#9
genericperson Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 522	i'm more of a bit fiend myself rather than high sample rate. higher sample rates actually decrease your signal to noise ratio... go figure! i'd do 48k/32bit mixdown if it were possible.

6th July 2004, 06:19 AM	#10
primomusic Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 95	how are those myteks ad/da, they are pretty expensive. why would u choose is over lavry, hedd. does it sound better.

6th July 2004, 03:49 PM	#11
Bob Olhsson Motown legend Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Songwriter Gulch, Nashville TN Posts: 5,273	Your final CD might easily sound worse than just working at 44.1! Even if you can have a pro mastering job done that sounds marginally better, your ruffs and client copies are likely to take a pretty big quality hit if you have to use digi's sample rate conversions. __________________ Georgetown Masters 615 254-3233 Bob's room 615 385-8051 Music Industry 2.0

23rd January 2005, 05:53 AM	#12
cl516 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 840	...6 months later. Ok, I agree there will definitely be a quality hit using Digi's SRC. Taking into account what was said in this thread, how about doing everything at 96k, then mytek DA out into mytek AD 16/44.1 into an HHB burner? So no software SRC then... Or is that still shite?

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