Is Purple part of the VPR alliance?

[Lerxst]

I looked on their site and API's site as well, and did not see anything. I'm curios if anyone knows if Purple has applied/will apply. As I was looking at API's site there were a couple of "pending" applications from Shadow Hills and Rupert Neve, but Purple wasn't one of them...

~Lerxst

[NathanEldred]

No, but who cares. They are perfect.

[Lerxst]

Originally Posted by NathanEldred

No, but who cares. They are perfect.

Are you saying "No, they are not", "No they have not applied", or "No I don't have a clue"?

If they were perfect, wouldn't API be a part of their alliance?


~Lerxst

[boyinthebox]

You have somewhat answered your own question, If they had applied, or had been accepted, then clearly it would most likely say so on the API VPR Alliance page. If they are going to, who knows, that would be for Purple to decide, but at this time, I would highly doubt it. As Purple has designed their own "lunchbox" for 500 series modules, I think it would be a fair assumption that they are not interested in being qualified for use with API's. Do you understand what the VPR Alliance is and why manufacturors chose to become part of it? You may want to re-read, as I really doubt that each company is going to be starting their own "alliance," for their own units, (as you suggested Purple having one). For more information, I suggest searching the forum, there is more that enough information on 500 Series modules & housing units, power supplies & issues, and compatability issues for almost every single 500 series module available in the world, maybe even the universe. There are also quite a few individuals whom are regularly willing to help out with any further questions, Pan60 I know loves to talk about 500 Series modules

In addition, they are perfect. I cant wait to check out the new 'Pants.'

Cheers Slutz.

[Lerxst]

Originally Posted by boyinthebox

You have somewhat answered your own question, If they had applied, or had been accepted, then clearly it would most likely say so on the API VPR Alliance page. If they are going to, who knows, that would be for Purple to decide, but at this time, I would highly doubt it. As Purple has designed their own "lunchbox" for 500 series modules, I think it would be a fair assumption that they are not interested in being qualified for use with API's. Do you understand what the VPR Alliance is and why manufacturors chose to become part of it? You may want to re-read, as I really doubt that each company is going to be starting their own "alliance," for their own units, (as you suggested Purple having one). For more information, I suggest searching the forum, there is more that enough information on 500 Series modules & housing units, power supplies & issues, and compatability issues for almost every single 500 series module available in the world, maybe even the universe. There are also quite a few individuals whom are regularly willing to help out with any further questions, Pan60 I know loves to talk about 500 Series modules

In addition, they are perfect. I cant wait to check out the new 'Pants.'

Cheers Slutz.

Thanks for you reply, and maybe I have answered my own question but I thought by posting I might get a definative answer - maybe even from Purple.

I do understand what the alliance is and means. Even if Purple makes their own racks, I can still see that it would be in Purlple's best interest to be a part of the API alliance as their modules would be certified to run in the API racks. This in turn would give API rack owners (like me) a warm fuzzy about running the module(s) without voiding their warranty.

Also, I realize that running Purple modules in my API rack would most likely be okay, but with all of the talk around power supplys/modules, and racks outside of the OEM I wanted to see what others think. (I don't want to start another "is the Germainium power hungry" thread.)

I am intersted in some of the upcoming Purple stuff, but I have an API rack with a five year warranty. I guess the question is, will I void it If I run Purple modules and the smoke gets let out of the rack/power supply/or modules.

Really, I'm not suggesting that Purple have their own alliance - it was more sarcasm on my part as I noticed that the previous poster has an online store that doesn't seem to carry API.

~Lerxst

[boyinthebox]

Originally Posted by Lerxst

Thanks for you reply, and maybe I have answered my own question but I thought by posting I might get a definative answer - maybe even from Purple.

I do understand what the alliance is and means. Even if Purple makes their own racks, I can still see that it would be in Purlple's best interest to be a part of the API alliance as their modules would be certified to run in the API racks. This in turn would give API rack owners (like me) a warm fuzzy about running the module(s) without voiding their warranty.

Also, I realize that running Purple modules in my API rack would most likely be okay, but with all of the talk around power supplys/modules, and racks outside of the OEM I wanted to see what others think. (I don't want to start another "is the Germainium power hungry" thread.)

I am intersted in some of the upcoming Purple stuff, but I have an API rack with a five year warranty. I guess the question is, will I void it If I run Purple modules and the smoke gets let out of the rack/power supply/or modules.

Really, I'm not suggesting that Purple have their own alliance - it was more sarcasm on my part as I noticed that the previous poster has an online store that doesn't seem to carry API.

~Lerxst

You are welcome Lerxst. I understand what you are looking for now. I agree with you personally, however I am not sure Purple does or will. With all the new 500 series modules that Purple has come out with, from a business sense they may view API as a direct competitor. Both companies offer many types of modules with different rack options now, and they may not want to 'play nice.' As both companies have alot to be desired now in the 500 series lines, obvious differences aside, there are options and reasons to have 'both,' which will most likely continue to grow on both sides of the fence in the future.

Not factoring the warranty issue, the Biz works fine in API 500 series racks. I would assume the new Purple modules do as well, but I have not officially heard.

Honestly, I would assume if you told API you ran 3rd party non VPR Alliance member modules through their unit, it would in fact void the warranty, if you ever did have a problem. If you are looking for a definitive answer on that, my best advice would be to contact API directly and ask them beforehand if it is a concern for you.

Best of luck with your new Christmas presents, Have a Happy New Year!

Cheers.

[le purp]

API asked us if we wanted to be a member. When I asked if we could make racks they said officially no. We were planning on making racks and we didn't want to unofficially make them and then have a future problem with API so we declined.


-andrew

[Reptil]

Any info on the Moiyn module available? It is as I understand from the description on the "Sweet" page, basically a balanced mixer tapping off the rails? How will this interfere with compressors with sidechain? I guess the individual I/O can be run parallel? Maybe unused I/O xlr plugs on the back can serve as inputs for the mixer? that would expand functionality greatly in case of a half filled rack.
thanks!

[le purp]

The Moiyn is an 8x2 mixer using the main xlr outputs of slots 1-8. (edge connectors Pin 2, PIN 4)
That way any module will work and not interfere with the side chains.
Also that way you can use 8 compressors as line inputs.

The Summing amp is balanced high impedance so there will not interference
with using the output to drive something else also.
Slots 1-4 have jumpers on the motherboard that can be removed so
channels 1-4 will not go to the mixer.

I had not thought of using unstuffed slots but you can go in to the output
and get that signal to the mixer.

The slot 9 input will also accept an unbalanced stereo input from another mixer so you can cascade 8x2 mixers or what ever else.

The Moiyn uses our standard split winding output transformer for true isolated
outputs. On the Moiyn the second output is jumperable to the i/o of slot 10
so you can stuff a CANS in and get the second output automatically and use
slot 10's i/o as a second stereo output. The CANS has a 10K input so that will not really effect
the 600ohm transformer split.

(The CANS was designed as a headphone amp but could easily be used to drive a power amp or power speakers for you control room.)
On our rack the unbalanced output will come out on the second xlr out in a standard rack you would have to use a TRS on the front.)

The next product is a companion module for the CANS, a 1 RU box with a 500 module remote. Remote switching four
stereo sources and four speaker outputs for the CANS to use. I have not come up with a name yet.


OK some of that might not be clear -


-andrew

[Reptil]

Thank you for the info. Looks like a no brainer to me. thumbsup
that new remote; please make it stereo balanced I/O? High quality switchers are very welcome here for monitoring or recording too, for everything really; I'm planning a modular desk, with 19" spaces, of which one now reserved for the remote.

[le purp]

The switching will all be balanced in the 1RU Box.

The first iteration will be used with the CANS
which has a balanced transformer input
and a unbalanced output.
There could an option for output transformers in the 1RU box
but the CANS will feed it unbalanced because the limit of
i/o on the 500 module.



-andrew

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by le purp

The switching will all be balanced in the 1RU Box.

The first iteration will be used with the CANS
which has a balanced transformer input
and a unbalanced output.
There could an option for output transformers in the 1RU box
but the CANS will feed it unbalanced because the limit of
i/o on the 500 module.



-andrew

Ok, so there's inputs -> switch to Cans on insert -> output to different sources? GREAT! again something that I really need and can fit right in.
you guys have a purple glass bowl or something?

[Lerxst]

Originally Posted by le purp

API asked us if we wanted to be a member. When I asked if we could make racks they said officially no. We were planning on making racks and we didn't want to unofficially make them and then have a future problem with API so we declined.


-andrew

Andrew, Thanks for the candid reply! Straight answers are awsome!

I understand you have buisiness reasons for declining the alliance, but can you tell me if your modules fall within the VPR spec? I could'nt seem to find specs on your website (although I could have just missed them). I will be filling a couple of empty slots in my rack, and I am very intersted in the newly released "Action" among others.

~Lerxst

[le purp]

Working on all of the web pages right now.
Everything we make should work in all 500 racks
without any problems.

I know one manufacturer used to make a rack
that forgot to tie pin 1 on the edge connector to chassis. This will make
our modules and I suspect most others have a bit of a problem.
I have been told that that manufacture has fixed the problem
in their current product. I fixed it on the one I saw.


I recently read something on this forum about
a module made by another manufacture
that worked but would have headroom problems in
some racks. This confused me as headroom
is voltage not current.

[le purp]

Originally Posted by Reptil

Ok, so there's inputs -> switch to Cans on insert -> output to different sources? GREAT! again something that I really need and can fit right in.
you guys have a purple glass bowl or something?

yes the CANS would be an insert or loop on the 1RU box.

[Reptil]