Best Pop Punk album you've heard (quality-wise)

[deda]

Originally Posted by ITJ

None of the bands listed above are "Pop Punk"!





You are right on point! That's exactly what they heard after LWW. The result Rancid (2000). Don't get me wrong I did 2000 as well and I like the record. But... we worked on LWW off and on for 1 year. And they(and I) put their entire heart and souls into the record. It was the record THEY wanted to make. Not many artist get that chance. Time will tell!

I know, I was there.

Thomas "TJ" Johnson

TJ, as I trolled the threads I did lose the threads name "PoP Punk" which as you state, their not, but I had to come out on LWW so that anyone that had not heard that masterpiece might give it a listen. Its my favorite album of all time and you with all others responsible should be extremely proud. All involved are revered in these parts and it beats out London Calling as the #1 masterpiece in my mind, including all music styles not just Punk and you were there doing it, man its a damn honor to hear from you. Man I'd love to pick your brain about that year long journey.
Anyone reading this that has not heard this greatness buy it and you'll be blown away, regards ,,deda,,

Additionally, TJ I apologize for the crap statement I made in my post about Rancid (2000). I was disappointed after waiting for their next release hoping for another ground breaking album that when it was released I never gave it a chance. I just kept my LWW in the player in my truck and lived in the past, regards ,,deda,,

FOLLOW: In Music We Trust - Rancid: Life Won't Wait

[ITJ]

Originally Posted by deda

TJ, as I trolled the threads I did lose the threads name "PoP Punk" which as you state, their not, but I had to come out on LWW so that anyone that had not heard that masterpiece might give it a listen. Its my favorite album of all time and you with all others responsible should be extremely proud. All involved are revered in these parts and it beats out London Calling as the #1 masterpiece in my mind, including all music styles not just Punk and you were there doing it, man its a damn honor to hear from you. Man I'd love to pick your brain about that year long journey.
Anyone reading this that has not heard this greatness buy it and you'll be blown away, regards ,,deda,,

Thanks for the props. I'm open for any questions.

Originally Posted by deda

Additionally, TJ I apologize for the crap statement I made in my post about Rancid (2000).

No worries!

[The Chemist]

Chimps for nuthin' and Monkeys for free - Reel Big Fish...

Very clean, very smooth.

[aeonsound]

The Wannadies - Bagsy Me

this is what i think of when i hear 'pop punk'; it's also a great record sonically, at least to these untrained ears... close, intimate, yet never oppressive.

[stereomixer]

The drums are sample light, in some cases just going through reverb. The Drums on the record are DW, if you listen closely you can tell every hit is different. The Mic techniques Dan Korneff and I used were key.
So was the ADR comp and the SSL.

ps....ok I will admit I had an spx90 on a fader and I did ride that snare hard.

Originally Posted by paul101

Thought I'd listen again to this album, just in case I missed something the first time.

For me there is something weird about how the snare ring sits in the tracks,especially on born for this. Its has a real obvious pitch to it that sounds discordant.

Otherwise its sounds great, kinda plasticly, but not in a bad way.

[PreAmpSam]

Jimmy eat world's E.P. stay on my side tonight has some killer drum tones and really nice spaces created with it so it gets my vote.

[rockstar_josh]

I'm listening to the Shape of Punk To Come right now and I love this album! The guitars on it are enormous - just massive! And I have to throw in a 2nd or 3rd for Samiam.... I listen to Astray often, it's one of my favorite albums.

[tommy pee]

Originally Posted by stereomixer

The drums are sample light, in some cases just going through reverb. The Drums on the record are DW, if you listen closely you can tell every hit is different. The Mic techniques Dan Korneff and I used were key.
So was the ADR comp and the SSL.

ps....ok I will admit I had an spx90 on a fader and I did ride that snare hard.

incredible. can you tell us a little bit more about mic positions, what was used and how it was processed? maybe a little about the vocal chain as well? its all incredible sounding stuff.

great to have you here!

[ddp]

Originally Posted by heisleyamor

when I was in high school, half of the "punks" were rich little f***ing snobs but they lead the little "punk scene" in our school with their stupid poser vests and mohawks and shit. punk is now a fashion...grow up

There has always been fashion in punk it started that way.

The style of clothes etc was always at least as important as the music.

Anyways my favourite punk record is:

No Means No "Wrong"

[psrock]

Originally Posted by The Chemist

Chimps for nuthin' and Monkeys for free - Reel Big Fish...

Very clean, very smooth.

That's backwards. It's Monkeys for Nothin' and the Chimps for Free. (Don't you get the pun?, haha)

That said, excellent album.

[jaydeluca]

Originally Posted by mreagan

I second the Four Year Strong.

Yea those guys at Playwork Productions know how to pump out pop/punk

[bcgood]

As far as pop punk goes, nothing comes close to Enema of the State IMHO. That albums kicks ass! I must have spent a whole summer listening to that album while at the beach with my friends. The are a lot of subtleties to the production and song writing on that album; I swear I can even hear some Beach Boys influence in there...

[Blast9]

Originally Posted by stereomixer

The drums are sample light, in some cases just going through reverb. The Drums on the record are DW, if you listen closely you can tell every hit is different. The Mic techniques Dan Korneff and I used were key.
So was the ADR comp and the SSL.tutt

ps....ok I will admit I had an spx90 on a fader and I did ride that snare hard.

Props to David Bendeth for a great-sounding record - thumbsup I only just discovered Paramore whilst I was at a studio all day, sitting through hours of heavy-rotation emo/punk/pop drivel ona Music TV channel - This one song "That's what you get" really stood out... rocks hard, my man! \m/

[dylansmale]

good references are: The Clash: London Calling. Older Misfits stuff seems like a no brainer. Also some Green Day stuff that isn't American Idiot. I don't know: AFI, The Used. Turn On the radio, its that simple. I haven't listened to these bands in ages though, I don't want my music sounding anything like whats available on pop radio. To loud.

[dylansmale]

Just think Blink 182. Not much is better than that in the category

[fooman]

I think a lot of people don't like this CD because of the heavy limiting, but I love Finch's first cd... I think it's called 'What It Is To Burn'. I lost the case... =\

Anywho, I love the songs, the drum sounds, and the guitars are great! I'd love to be able to record vocals like that as well.

I also enjoyed Paramore and the singer in my band loves them a ton. She always wants us to cover them for fun. We played a show and covered Misery Business and we overheard a few kids outside saying they thought we were the band they were hearing on the radio. Weird.... I thought we sucked. Anywho, speak more about the production of that disc!!

[AndrewsLaneRec.]

Originally Posted by WideawakE

the get up kids?

4 minute mile, yep. perfect.

i was gonna say Mineral "end serenading" but it's not really pop punk now that i think of it.

[AndrewsLaneRec.]

Originally Posted by Kadden Heart

trombino did the first few jimmy eat stuff, another thumbs up for my man :)
lol
trombino also did the early blink stuff.

who did the pennywise mixing? all of their records are awesome. a perfect example of punchy punk drums and soaring guitar walls.
?????

he also did mineral a few others. i love his style.


i felt like the pennywise s/t record had this cheesy kind of stadium rock sound to the drum... esp. the toms. the guitars are kind of sandpapery too.

[deckerluke]

i should shoot myself for saying this, but i was 13 once too, and always really enjoyed, "So long and thanks for all the shoes.." by nofx
oh man
still a bit of a guilty pleasure

[lomky]

Can't read through the entire thread, but for recentish stuff I would have to say Snapcase - End Transmission, this album kicks my ass every time (Is it pop punk? Probably not). For older stuff I have rediscovered Rich Kids on LSD - Riches to Rags.

Back in the day Ryan Green had his hands in all the greats (as far as I'm concerned). And a great guy too!

[mtlin]

Originally Posted by DeathMonkey

And punk rockers don't sing about chicks.

Sheena is a punk rocker
Sheena is a punk rocker
Sheena is a punk rocker now

[donsimpson]

Me First and the Gimme Gimmes - Blow in the Wind. Pop songs turned into full-blown, raging, punk rock classics.

[Kadden Heart]

Originally Posted by fooman

I think a lot of people don't like this CD because of the heavy limiting, but I love Finch's first cd... I think it's called 'What It Is To Burn'. I lost the case... =\

Anywho, I love the songs, the drum sounds, and the guitars are great! I'd love to be able to record vocals like that as well.

I also enjoyed Paramore and the singer in my band loves them a ton. She always wants us to cover them for fun. We played a show and covered Misery Business and we overheard a few kids outside saying they thought we were the band they were hearing on the radio. Weird.... I thought we sucked. Anywho, speak more about the production of that disc!!

yeah, weird, finch -what it is to burn was the first trombino record i heard, first record i that i would listen to and go "those guitars sound so,,."thick" ,..and "wide"
lol
it's limited to hell, i always actually thought the cymbals were ducking under the kick drum, but i can crank that record and hear every single note of it
:)

[fooman]

If you listen to the Finch tune "Here With Me" it sounds like the cymbals are ducked under the snare.... is this just the general compression?

Are these drums sampled? They are so perfect... but seriously I've heard the Finch demo's or whatever and I can still listen to them cause I like the tunes. When I bought the CD it just put me over the top.

[Kadden Heart]

Originally Posted by fooman

If you listen to the Finch tune "Here With Me" it sounds like the cymbals are ducked under the snare.... is this just the general compression?

Are these drums sampled? They are so perfect... but seriously I've heard the Finch demo's or whatever and I can still listen to them cause I like the tunes. When I bought the CD it just put me over the top.

i wish i knew, i asked mark tormbino via myspace if i could ask him a few questions and he said sure. i will definitely be asking these things.
it seems like he might have the drums on their own buss for heavy heavy limiting, last time i checked though trombino wasn't a very big fan of samples, just great mic technique? this could aso be why the cymbals duck under kicks and snares.

i'll be sure ot find out
:)

[Nu-tra]

[Blast9]

Nu-tra... Where can I get that album, and how do you pronounce it?

[darkswan]

Big Boys - No matter how long the line...
DK - Bedtime for Democracy
Bad Brains - I against I
Crass, the christ Album
the Cure - Kiss Me
Janes Addiciton - Ritual de lo Habitual
Red hot chilli Peppers - Uplift Mofo Party Plan
Faith No More- We Care a Lot
Youth Brigade - sink with california
PJ Harvey - Rid of Me
Butthole Surfers - hairway to Steven
Big black - songs about fvcking

I think you can drop the pop part with these groups, just punk or piss off.

[rafter@vt.edu]

A Wilhelm Scream- Career Suicide
Lifetime- Lifetime
None More Black- This is Satire
Bad Astronaut- all 3 albums + b-sides
The Bouncing Souls- Anchors Aweigh
The Hold Steady- Boys & Girls in America/Stay Positive
Hot Water Music- No Division
Jawbreaker- Bivouac
The Lawrence Arms- Oh! Calcutta


These are some very positive punk-style references, at least in the style I like to hear.

[nadumr]

Another vote for Rancid "...And Out come the wolves"

and Sugarcult's "start static" comes to mind too.