Best Pop Punk album you've heard (quality-wise)

[Simpleton]

Originally Posted by heisleyamor

when I was in high school, half of the "punks" were rich little f***ing snobs but they were lead the little "punk scene" in our school with their stupid poser vests and mohawks and shit. punk is now a fashion...grow up

Holy shit, did IQ's on this forum just drop considerably over the past couple of days? This is exactly the point I was trying to make... but you can read... right? So I don't really need to stress that point again, do I?

[drumzealot]

Originally Posted by Simpleton

Well said. I am in high school... duh!

BTW, go listen to The Spits...and although they didn't do any of that stupid shit you just mentioned...

They are vaginas. The secret police shall collect them. They shall be lead to the chamber. They shall repent.

[Kadden Heart]

god get over the use of terms would you people.

you all know exactly what the fu** was meant by "pop punk" so deal with it.

anyway,
another vote for

against me-new wave, good shit.

NFG self titled is also very,...thinn'ish, but the drums hit with a nice loud "pop"

now, on to my favorite engineer.
john feldman.

the used-all their stuff. GREAT
story of the year-GREAT
these records have some loud, clear, amazing sounds. i suggest everyone listen to them.

also, anything by trombino.
finch, steel trains new one,
also amazing.

[Simpleton]

Originally Posted by drumzealot

They are vaginas. The secret police shall collect them. They shall be lead to the chamber. They shall repent.

Aaargh, matey, make 'em walk the plank!

[drumzealot]

Originally Posted by Simpleton

Aaargh, matey, make 'em walk the plank!

Or maybe they'll go to college and study arrrrrrt.

and wear arrrrrgile sox

or make films about (swig of rum) arrrrrrrrgintina.

[paul101]

Originally Posted by Blake Minaker

Green Day - American Idiot
Billy Talent - Billy Talent
Billy Talent - Billy Talent 2
Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come

Actually, all except Refused are CLA mixes iirc, so probably anything by him.

On first listen Id tend to agree with you. As twenty second soundbites they sound amazing. Loads of clarity, everything sits well in the mix and hits super hard. Same goes for the new Paramore record, apart from the snare is insanely loud even for my tastes and so obviously a sample.

However on repeated listening all the above are such hard work. Every song is flat, no movement, just continually full on. Its like they forgot to add any dynamics and settled for something entirely static.

Reuben-RACECAR IS RACECAR BACKWARDS
not technically pop punk and full of flaws, but has more vibe than any of the records above imo

[tommy pee]

the snare on misery business by paramore is literally ridiculous. its so over the top and over sampled, but god, its the punchiest thing ive ever heard

[Kadden Heart]

i keep hearing people mention refused,... i dn't wanna waste the 15 bucks on it,...
how good is this record,...tangible and followable or not?

billy talent is a good example. especailly billy talent 2, the first one tends to be a little,..regular.

the new paramore record is being great. the records that stand out to me are the ones with that insanely loud kick and snare.
imo.

[Kadden Heart]

famous monsters- great record, not the best production. (best song, saturday night)

anti-flag, all great records, especially the new poppy stuff. but it's all done at mr smalls in pittsburgh,... smalls has a control 24 and like no outboard,...i'm wondering how they get some of those sounds iwth such low equipment.

if there happens to be anyone from mr smalls on GS,..,aybe they'll see this and let me know
;)

[nerogtr]

Originally Posted by Kadden Heart

now, on to my favorite engineer.
john feldman.

the used-all their stuff. GREAT
story of the year-GREAT
these records have some loud, clear, amazing sounds. i suggest everyone listen to them.

story of the year's "page avenue" blows my mind on the production end of things. there's some really creative stuff going on in a lot of those tracks. very very cool.

[punx&skunx]

Figured this thread was as good as any for me to make my first post. I'm a huge ska/punk fan so I'd like to think I have some knowledge on this subject. Many bands that I would've considered punk have had commercial success and had that success end up defining what their future sound was (Green Day, Blink 182). Thank God Rancid never fell into that category

There are so many sub genres in not only punk, but all sects of music that's it's become almost impossible to classify a band in just one. As long as bands like NFG and GC exist, so will pop-punk.

Is pop-punk a bad thing? Seeing as how I was ushered into punk by bands like Green Day, Offspring, MXPX, and Blink 182, I'd be a hypocrite to say yes. That doesn't mean I still prefer that sub-genre of punk, but I understand that it was a transitional music that opened me to some of my favorite bands, Rancid, Suicide Machines, Bouncing Souls..........

That being said, the best pop punk album I've ever heard would probably be Dude Ranch by Blink 182. Fast, energetic, and still catchy. They were great live before crap like Enema and Take Off.

[84K]

lust for life

that is about as pop as I can take my punk, and it only works cause "IG" is undeniably the real deal.

I'd love to kick all these wannabe punks kids asses. The kids who use style gel to try to make their hair look like they are messy, when really they went out of their way and spent time with a effin gel bottle and hair dryer to make it look 'stylishly messy.' That pisses me off so much. The music usually sounds like the hair looks... planned, clean but messy, edited to death and sooooo over produced that calling it punk should be illegal.

[rumimusic]

Originally Posted by blackwatch5805

american idiot

Yep.

[rumimusic]

Originally Posted by 84K

lust for life

that is about as pop as I can take my punk, and it only works cause "IG" is undeniably the real deal.

I'd love to kick all these wannabe punks kids asses. The kids who use style gel to try to make their hair look like they are messy, when really they went out of their way and spent time with a effin gel bottle and hair dryer to make it look 'stylishly messy.' That pisses me off so much. The music usually sounds like the hair looks... planned, clean but messy, edited to death and sooooo over produced that calling it punk should be illegal.

I agree in many ways. The Stranglers were a great band that could be considered pop punk and i dig their production alot.

[The Chemist]

Listening to Death By Stereo's last studio album (Death for Life), and I love it.

(Sorry bout the bump)

[neilio]

there are a few in this obtuse realm...

nofx-white trash two heebs and a bean

that one pennywise album-self titled i think.

the green day stuff is good

jimmy eat world, not sure if applicable here but i am always impressed by their first two albums


gawd there is so many actually really good examples here...

the first not-so-commercial blink-182....the one with m&m's on it...

it really has become the de riguer sub-genre for great guitar-friven productions...

does the foo fighters fit in here?

i guess the distinction of "pop-punk" needs to be defined better...

[jamsmith]

Pretty much everything by Green Day. I don't have a problem witht the term pop-punk. If you take punk and have record it decently with decent musicians, it should have no problem being pop. In fact, I heard Johnny Ramone say he called what he played Power Pop, not punk.

I have an interesting take toward punk in general. I was a teenager smack in the middle of the hey day of punk smack, in the middle of the original scene. The bands from CBGBs in New York and the Ratskeller in Boston all played in New London at a place called BaBa O'Reillys. I had a punk band called The Gronk then. Fast forward 30 years or so and I find myself in a rap-metal band with a 20 something punk-rocker calling me a "shredder who is living in the past". Since shred was in the 80s and punk in the 70s, it obvious who was really living in the past. Yet, the attitude from todays punkers is like the invented the shit. Tell that to Johhny Ramone!

Though in fairness, I think part of the appeal of punk is the good band always played LIKE they invented it.

[mat1306]

all american reject (move along)
Ataris (so long astoria)
those sound amazing, but here is a lot of stuff with great production...

i also like drums in Boys like girls record and FOB ,really nice sound!!

[Chris Doremus]

WOW, Insane. I'm gonna go ahead and say that the RIOT by paramore is out of control. I've been comparing it to other albums and it ridiculously more punchy and louder. I've heard other records that sound like distortion that are quieter!!! So I don't get it, it's louder and doesn't sound as distorted as other records?? Yes its ridiculous and pretty over produced but it sells. The drum sounds are pretty exciting... fake or not!

[Kadden Heart]

Originally Posted by neilio

there are a few in this obtuse realm...

nofx-white trash two heebs and a bean

that one pennywise album-self titled i think.

the green day stuff is good

jimmy eat world, not sure if applicable here but i am always impressed by their first two albums


gawd there is so many actually really good examples here...

the first not-so-commercial blink-182....the one with m&m's on it...

it really has become the de riguer sub-genre for great guitar-friven productions...

does the foo fighters fit in here?

i guess the distinction of "pop-punk" needs to be defined better...

trombino did the first few jimmy eat stuff, another thumbs up for my man :)
lol
trombino also did the early blink stuff.

who did the pennywise mixing? all of their records are awesome. a perfect example of punchy punk drums and soaring guitar walls.
?????

[Kadden Heart]

Originally Posted by Chris Doremus

WOW, Insane. I'm gonna go ahead and say that the RIOT by paramore is out of control. I've been comparing it to other albums and it ridiculously more punchy and louder. I've heard other records that sound like distortion that are quieter!!! So I don't get it, it's louder and doesn't sound as distorted as other records?? Yes its ridiculous and pretty over produced but it sells. The drum sounds are pretty exciting... fake or not!

i'm a paramore fan so it may be slightly biased but,..my god does that record pound somethin' fierce.
i want those kick, snare samples.
also wonder the vocal chain,...hm,...

[Rripror]

Rancid-'out come the wolves'

[d. gauss]

some mentioned before, some not:

buzzcocks- singles going steady
sex pistols - bollocks lp
ramones - rocket to russia
dead boys - the one with "sonic reducer"
television - marquee moon
joy division- pick one
wayne county & the electric chairs - self titled
the jam - whatever the 1st record was called
xtc - the first record with "statue of liberty"

[deda]

I could go nuts with this but will start slow then pick up steam, in other words love Punk, Dub, Reggae so to begin.

Clash, London Calling
Operation Ivy
US Bombs
Rancid, "Out comes the Wolves", "Life Won't Wait". Footnote: The band seemed to loose their fing minds after these two Classic albums and basicly distanced themselves from absolute greatness that these albums are, I guess because someone from the pit told them they weren't hardcore anymore and it hurt their feelings. They regressed in my view turned out what they thought was their return to hardcore which was crap and haven't scored anything close in 10 years to those must have albums.
NOFX, Punk in Drublic
To Be Continued, regards ,,deda,,

[paul101]

Originally Posted by Kadden Heart

i'm a paramore fan so it may be slightly biased but,..my god does that record pound somethin' fierce.
i want those kick, snare samples.
also wonder the vocal chain,...hm,...

Thought I'd listen again to this album, just in case I missed something the first time.

For me there is something weird about how the snare ring sits in the tracks,especially on born for this. Its has a real obvious pitch to it that sounds discordant.

Otherwise its sounds great, kinda plasticly, but not in a bad way.

[ITJ]

Originally Posted by deda

I could go nuts with this but will start slow then pick up steam, in other words love Punk, Dub, Reggae so to begin.

Clash, London Calling
Operation Ivy
US Bombs
Rancid

None of the bands listed above are "Pop Punk"!

Originally Posted by deda

Rancid, "Out comes the Wolves", "Life Won't Wait". Footnote: The band seemed to loose their fing minds after these two Classic albums and basicly distanced themselves from absolute greatness that these albums are, I guess because someone from the pit told them they weren't hardcore anymore and it hurt their feelings.

You are right on point! That's exactly what they heard after LWW. The result Rancid (2000). Don't get me wrong I did 2000 as well and I like the record. But... we worked on LWW off and on for 1 year. And they(and I) put their entire heart and souls into the record. It was the record THEY wanted to make. Not many artist get that chance. Time will tell!

I know, I was there.

Thomas "TJ" Johnson

[jonaknt]

"Enema of the State" still sounds so f**cking good to me.

God bless you Tom Lord-Alge & Jerry Finn.

[4stringerfinger]

NOFX in this order:

S&M Airlines
Ribbed
Whitetrash 2 Heebs and a Bean