Royer r-122.....

spoonie g · 16th November 2007, 06:48 PM

is there an advantage to this over the 121 for rock applications?

spoonie g · 16th November 2007, 10:28 PM

anyone?

lofi_lothario · 16th November 2007, 10:57 PM

uhh 15db more gain?

spoonie g · 16th November 2007, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lofi_lothario

uhh 15db more gain?

but will you need that for rock applications is what I'm asking?

lofi_lothario · 16th November 2007, 11:52 PM

No. I use my 121 for rock recordings with no problem. Even with quieter acoustic stuff it's fine.

Ciozzi · 17th November 2007, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by spoonie g

but will you need that for rock applications is what I'm asking?

The r121 is a passive design and relies on the preamp for all its gain and impedance matching. The r122 has a built in preamplifier with an impedance matching stage and because of that is less preamp dependant.

If you already have a decent/good preamp with a lot of gain I would say that the r121 will cover all your needs without any problems. Go for it and save some $

spoonie g · 17th November 2007, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ciozzi

The r121 is a passive design and relies on the preamp for all its gain and impedance matching. The r122 has a built in preamplifier with an impedance matching stage and because of that is less preamp dependant.

If you already have a decent/good preamp with a lot of gain I would say that the r121 will cover all your needs without any problems. Go for it and save some $

sounds good. thanks guys!

Ciozzi · 17th November 2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by spoonie g

sounds good. thanks guys!

De nada

analogjeff · 17th November 2007, 03:12 PM

agree with above... and, when we bought a 121 (that we use all the time), we tried the 122 as well, and actually preferred the sound of the 121 -- a small differences but noticeable to us, especially on most acoustic instruments (it sounds great on elec gtrs, drums, etc., too)... the 121 sounded a little more realistic to our ears...

strat+ac30 · 17th November 2007, 03:32 PM

Here's how I think of it: AFAIK, they use the exact same design except the phantom-powered amplifier in the 122. Thus using a 121 will give you more of the character of your preamp (it has to provide more gain) while the 122 will give you less preamp character and more the sound of the mic itself.

I've not used the 122 too much, but I've always liked expirimenting with the dramatic differences that various preamps will give ribbons. It's like another fun variable in the sound.

P.S. Pair a ribbon with a variable-impedence preamp (TG2 with option, Great River NV, ViPRE, Mackie Onyx 800R) and you can have all sorts of fun. Sometimes the impedence mismatch can completely change that "huge proximity effect" you can get with ribbons, and give you a radically different EQ while retaining the distinct ribbon character.

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16th November 2007, 10:57 PM	#3
lofi_lothario Gear nut Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Juan Posts: 127	uhh 15db more gain?

16th November 2007, 11:52 PM	#5
lofi_lothario Gear nut Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Juan Posts: 127	No. I use my 121 for rock recordings with no problem. Even with quieter acoustic stuff it's fine.

17th November 2007, 03:12 PM	#9
analogjeff Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 288	agree with above... and, when we bought a 121 (that we use all the time), we tried the 122 as well, and actually preferred the sound of the 121 -- a small differences but noticeable to us, especially on most acoustic instruments (it sounds great on elec gtrs, drums, etc., too)... the 121 sounded a little more realistic to our ears...

17th November 2007, 03:32 PM	#10
strat+ac30 Gear nut Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 132	Here's how I think of it: AFAIK, they use the exact same design except the phantom-powered amplifier in the 122. Thus using a 121 will give you more of the character of your preamp (it has to provide more gain) while the 122 will give you less preamp character and more the sound of the mic itself. I've not used the 122 too much, but I've always liked expirimenting with the dramatic differences that various preamps will give ribbons. It's like another fun variable in the sound. P.S. Pair a ribbon with a variable-impedence preamp (TG2 with option, Great River NV, ViPRE, Mackie Onyx 800R) and you can have all sorts of fun. Sometimes the impedence mismatch can completely change that "huge proximity effect" you can get with ribbons, and give you a radically different EQ while retaining the distinct ribbon character.