Great PLUG-INs for Master Bus duties?

[chrisj]

Geez, I wish you were using Logic. My plugin 'Logical' is for exactly that, and I even did an example file to go along with a shootout here on GS a while back. It stands up very well to the Waves, doesn't quite make it to Duende level (yet!). It's $60, but only available as Audio Unit.

Here's where the comparison files are at- you might remember this thread, I think it was 'SSL vs... SSL'

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1...09acdc97b7e379

[Akoppenheffer]

Massey L2007! I love that thing. Best 89 bucks I've spent in a while.

[Matteran]

I have to suggest the PSP Vintagewarmer. I only have version 1.5 or something like that, but I hear really good improvements were made in the 2.0 upgrade.

It's got a good smooth compression "glue" to it. I usually bring all my faders down, throw it on the 2-buss, bring up the kick so it's just tickling the gain reduction. Basically a lot of people do that with a 2-buss, but just throwing that out there.

Also, 1.5 only has a brickwall limiter setting, but apparently the 2.0 version has a compression setting too, which I would love to have. I'd prefere to keep the great sound of the psp, but not send out limited mixes to get mastered.

Anyway, try out the demo, i'm sure you'll love it.

Also the built-in EQ is great for adding a touch of Air and Low End Thump.

[Blindside]

Originally Posted by Akoppenheffer

Massey L2007! I love that thing. Best 89 bucks I've spent in a while.

+1!!!! Even the CT4 works there sometimes.

[PheelTheMusic]

Whoops, I guess I should have mentioned that I use Digital Performer 5. Massey is just Pro Tools, right?

Chris - I took a listen to that shootout when you posted it before. Your plugin sounded great! As discussed in the thread though there was just a little bit more silk to the high end of the Duende. Obviously for $60 there is no better value out there... I'm going to take another listen

[cooker]

+1 on vintagewarmer. Presets work great, no attack-release settings, simple+effective and you can use it on anything that requires compression or warmth or eq.

[chrisj]

Originally Posted by PheelTheMusic

Whoops, I guess I should have mentioned that I use Digital Performer 5. Massey is just Pro Tools, right?

Chris - I took a listen to that shootout when you posted it before. Your plugin sounded great! As discussed in the thread though there was just a little bit more silk to the high end of the Duende. Obviously for $60 there is no better value out there... I'm going to take another listen

Thanks. It's good to hear because right now I'm beating myself to death trying to get guitar sims to beat the Waves, Amplitube etc etc, and I SERIOUSLY fell on my face out of the gate by not working with dedicated cabinet sims from the getgo. Lower gain stuff didn't suffer so much but the high gain stuff humiliated me and I've been going crazy trying to salvage the trainwreck, with way too much of this sort of thing:

original horrible example: 100 downloads
much improved example: 50 downloads while I leave the other one up so the people who ragged on it don't look like fools...
getting seriously good: 20 downloads...

There's something to be said for not making your mistakes publically, but I try to do so much so fast that I do need to be spanked sometimes for starting off in a terribly wrong direction. Even worse, I tend to love really obnoxious guitar tones that nobody would buy :D

Thank goodness some of them like Iron Oxide, Logical etc. are good from the start. (though Logical has been revised once)

I would also note that I got Channel back to its original roots, and that works well on the master bus, plus it's actually free...

[DontLetMeDrown]

Cranesong Phoenix

[recall]

Mcdsp Analog Channel is what I use. Usually the AC1 modeling a neve console's input stage. (I believe they are going to be/have been? ported to au/vst

I sometimes use Sony's Inflator which is good.

And although I don't own it I have used URS' channel strip Pro and must say that it is excellent. I highly recommend it. Very flexible.

Sonalksis has an SSL style Comp sv-315mk2? Which is based on an Alan Smart style comp with a "crush" setting which can be really nice.

[t_d]

if you like the SSL rack.. why don't you try the Waves SSL bundle.. i rarely do a recording without the waves SSL compressor gently on my master fader.. i love it..

i've never paid a single WUP fee in my life.. i don't know what the fuss is all about on that...

i also recently got the neve 33609 for the UAD, because i had a ton of coupons so got it cheap.. i really love this one, too....

[octatonic]

Massey Limiter is excellent.
McDSP G Channel kinda makes everything else superfluous.

[stamand]

+1 For the massey limiter!!!!I love it!!!!

[MickeySmid]

I have only heard it at some other studio, while I'm waiting for the VST version to get perfected... But the Chandler Studio plugins, the limiter and master EQ would be my buy! 60ies type sound.

(sorry to recommend something I don't have)
m.

[thermos]

Urs csp! Great comp for the master bus.

[gainstages]

I like to PLUG the output of my daw IN to my FATSO. best master buss plugin i've found so far

[Daddy No]

I've been eyeing the massey limiter

I am stuck at protools 6.9
(using a G4 dual 800 because my G5 pciX has flaky firewire for audio drives
& am waiting for a dsp card bump before thinking about upgrading to PCIe)

Anybody using the massey successfully at 6.9?
Did the fix with renaming it Z**pluginname** work okay?

Have been wary of downloading and installing because some had problems
& the great thing about where I'm at is I've had no stability problems

:J

[six_wax]

The Waves SSL Bus Comp is pretty compelling, imo.

UAD 33609 is good & usable... misses a bit of the "heft" of the hardware, but sounds good.

PSPVW & Oxford Dynamics can do the job as well, and MCDSP Channel G is cool.

(I've used all of the above with good results.)

My shootout of the Waves API 2500 and my hardware 2500 was pretty damn close... but not selling my hardware 2500 just yet...

[rockrev]

Another vote for AC1 . . . just can't be beat by another plug at what it does. Now hardware . . . that's a different story.

dj

[deuc647]

+100 for the massey limiter, or use your ren comp, use a fast attack and like 1.5 ratio, i used to use that and it gives the mix great focus

[recall]

Originally Posted by deuc647

+100 for the massey limiter, or use your ren comp, use a fast attack and like 1.5 ratio, i used to use that and it gives the mix great focus

So are you actually limiting any peaks with it or just using it for its sound?
I wasn't aware of so many people using a limiter on their mixbus.

[RACKMAN]

Just buy some hardware of choice nothing is ever as good. Dave

[narcoman]

Originally Posted by recall

So are you actually limiting any peaks with it or just using it for its sound?
I wasn't aware of so many people using a limiter on their mixbus.

unfortunately thats exacly what a lot of people seem to be doing ! Those are the mixes that get rejected from here - if someone sends me a severely limited mix i ask for it again. How can i sync that kind of thing to picture with our post processing as well?

Folks - keep the limiter OFF the final mix please.....

[vaka]

I agree with previous posters, limiters on the master bus..?
Compressor, sure, but I'd never put a limiter on there.

[Wilburguy]

I've been loving the Waves SSL bus comp for glue. The hitmaker plugin! Also, the Massey limiter is great for final mastering.

[aermotor]

McDSP ML4000 treats me right. I usually use the PSP Vintage Warmer and Reel Tape Saturation on ITB mixes and then bounce that and do a final "master" with the ML4000.

[Stiff]

I don't use limiters on the master bus. The things that do end up their is DUY DaD Tape, McDSP Analog Channel, McDSP Channel G and Eiosis AirEQ. Definitely not all at the same time... Guess it depends on the mood (and on the DAW!).

[Tracker]

Antares Autotune

[3rd world order]

GREAT is about the most overused adjective in the english language these days.. reminds me of Tony the Tiger.. "they're rrRRRRRRRRREAT!"

[DowntownScience]

Dependent:

Waves SSL 4000
UAD Precision Limiter
UAD Cambridge EQ

Antares Autotune

Sounds about right.