Peluso 2247SE or Mojave MA200 ...cant decide..

Blues · 30th October 2007, 03:08 AM

1st off....purchasing one of these is some months off.....(saving up for a hi quality mic, pre and EQ to buy at all at once..)

But my problem is that while my Blue baby bottle has it's uses...vox aint one it's strong suits...it's too dark for my voice..really low mid heavy and a bit..dare I say...'veiled' sounding?...have to eq it alot to get a useable sound out of it and even THAT is just merely "serviceable"...

I do some hiphop vox as well as folk/jazz type singing..

I want something that sounds about 90% "there" when I play back the raw tracks...it sounds like record, ya know?...i've heard great things about both mics...the mojave is cheaper obviously but not by too much and the peluso i've also heard is quite sweet...

any thoughts or insight?

I

lowfreq33 · 30th October 2007, 03:18 AM

Peluso.

peeder · 30th October 2007, 03:39 AM

Totally different animals. I guess I'd lean Peluso for the voice but the MA-200 slays anything on acoustic instruments. However, the Mojave is far, far brighter, and if your Blue isn't bright enough for you maybe you do want the MA-200. I own an MA-200 but I don't have a Peluso, and if I was getting a Peluso, it'd be the 22 251.

Bad Khan · 30th October 2007, 05:34 AM

Haven't tried the Peluso... yet... but I absolutely hated the Mojave... WAY bright and brittle in the top... Totally unnatural... reminded me of my old Rode NTK toob mic.

Just my 2 cents.

peeder · 30th October 2007, 06:05 AM

"brittle." Brittle. What does this mean, "brittle"? Brittle to me means fragile, as if there is breakup in the sound...it's not smooth in its output, it's irregular and spitty.

No the Mojave MA-200 (properly functioning) is not "brittle." Bright, yes. Awesome transient response for a tube mic, yes. But smooth in what it does, not irregular. And certainly Rode has never produced a mic that touches it to my knowledge.

guitardom · 30th October 2007, 06:21 AM

there is quite a price difference between these 2 mics. i have not used the peluso. i own the ma-200 and will say it can be a bright, and a bit sibilant on SOME singers. i do enjoy the mic though a lot!!

what has made you decide between these 2 mics?? just curious

Exsanguis · 30th October 2007, 07:23 AM

I've tried both, and while I personally own neither, I'd strongly recommend the Peluso. It worked better on every source that it was tried on, and I'm most definitely going to be buying one of their mic's soon as a result.

deve · 30th October 2007, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blues

I want something that sounds about 90% "there" when I play back the raw tracks...it sounds like record, ya know?...I

You need a designs pacifica. That was exactly my tought after I recieved it. Vocals don't need anything recorded through pacifica.

**TonyBelmont** · 30th October 2007, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blues

I do some hiphop vox as well as folk/jazz type singing..

I want something that sounds about 90% "there" when I play back the raw tracks...it sounds like record, ya know?...

I've recorded a lot of hip hop vocals, as well as some folk stuff and have used the 47 LE extensively.

I would probably buy the 47 LE first if all my mics disappeared and I had nothing. It's a fabulous mic.

Blues · 31st October 2007, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitardom

what has made you decide between these 2 mics?? just curious

Well..i been lurking on here and at other forums for quite some time now...and I kept noticing how superlative the posts were about the mojave....people really seem to dig THAT mic.....and it's just so reasonably priced....

yet..at the same time..i've been working with the 'pro-sumer' end of equipment for some time now....ive cut my teeth on it...and I now want to drop the dough on some "big league" equipment to where my sound and mixes can REALLY compete with the big boys....i've had the experience to work with hi-quality gear before with guys who know how to get good sounds and the combination is like a revelation for an artist like myself....so..i'm now well on my way to saving up $10 G's to drop next year on a great VOX recording channel, and some nice monitors (looking at those ADam a7's with a sub)

in the mean time...i'm going to stores in seattle trying out different mics and pres to find sumn that's not only good for my voice but also the occasional client that will pop up at my humble little studio...

NathanEldred · 31st October 2007, 04:41 AM

The Mojave is the polar opposite of the Baby Bottle. The BB has an 'upside down' smiley face...the MA-200 has a big presence rise in the high mids and high frequencies. A more fair apples to apples comparison would be the Mojave Audio to the Peluso 22 251 (or maybe the Peluso P12), which aren't exactly like each other but I think they are tonally somewhat coming from the same place, and far more similar in price too. The extra couple hundred dollars of the 22 251 gets you multiple polar patterns, which can expand the versatility of a mic greatly.

The 2247LE isn't an exceptionally bright mic, but it isn't a 'flat' mic either. It has some air in the top, more than your Blue Bottle which is actually rolled off in the top. In cardioid the LE has a relatively strong proximity effect (low frequency boost), more than some mics (less than a U47, but more than the Mojave for instance), and less than others. IMO, the LE is definitely more versatile. Between the fact that it's a bit more neutral in frequency curve from lows to highs, and the fact that it has 9 polar patterns makes it a given that it is able to be used in more places. Mics that are a lot darker (like your Baby Bottle), or mics that are brighter will be a bit more application specific.

guitardom · 31st October 2007, 04:42 AM

hello,

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitardom

what has made you decide between these 2 mics?? just curious

Well..i been lurking on here and at other forums for quite some time now...and I kept noticing how superlative the posts were about the mojave....people really seem to dig THAT mic.....and it's just so reasonably priced....

yet..at the same time..i've been working with the 'pro-sumer' end of equipment for some time now....ive cut my teeth on it...and I now want to drop the dough on some "big league" equipment to where my sound and mixes can REALLY compete with the big boys....i've had the experience to work with hi-quality gear before with guys who know how to get good sounds and the combination is like a revelation for an artist like myself....so..i'm now well on my way to saving up $10 G's to drop next year on a great VOX recording channel, and some nice monitors (looking at those ADam a7's with a sub)

in the mean time...i'm going to stores in seattle trying out different mics and pres to find sumn that's not only good for my voice but also the occasional client that will pop up at my humble little studio...

cool, we all have different opinions and experiences here so keeps it interesting!! i must say for hip hop, metal, in your face style vocals i am still loving the sm7b more than anything i have tried. i am using it with an adl 600, and am floored everytime for the price i cant beat it. i totally enjoy my mojave. but since i have gotten it i have not had a lot of "experimentation" time on sessions. i have used the mojave as much as i could on vocals but some of the "serious" stuff i had to use the sm7, just cause i new for sure what the final result would be. the mojave has done well, just thought it was a bit sibilant on a female singer i was doing some stuff with. have not used the peluso though i wouldnt mind

i tried the a7's as well and decided to go with the p11's. a bit more money but glad i did!!! a bit bigger and a bit more oomph. trying them side by side i had to do it

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30th October 2007, 03:08 AM	#1
Blues Gear Head Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 57	Peluso 2247SE or Mojave MA200 ...cant decide.. 1st off....purchasing one of these is some months off.....(saving up for a hi quality mic, pre and EQ to buy at all at once..) But my problem is that while my Blue baby bottle has it's uses...vox aint one it's strong suits...it's too dark for my voice..really low mid heavy and a bit..dare I say...'veiled' sounding?...have to eq it alot to get a useable sound out of it and even THAT is just merely "serviceable"... I do some hiphop vox as well as folk/jazz type singing.. I want something that sounds about 90% "there" when I play back the raw tracks...it sounds like record, ya know?...i've heard great things about both mics...the mojave is cheaper obviously but not by too much and the peluso i've also heard is quite sweet... any thoughts or insight? I __________________ http://www.myspace.com/odysseydeep

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NathanEldred Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Central Florida Posts: 5,372	The Mojave is the polar opposite of the Baby Bottle. The BB has an 'upside down' smiley face...the MA-200 has a big presence rise in the high mids and high frequencies. A more fair apples to apples comparison would be the Mojave Audio to the Peluso 22 251 (or maybe the Peluso P12), which aren't exactly like each other but I think they are tonally somewhat coming from the same place, and far more similar in price too. The extra couple hundred dollars of the 22 251 gets you multiple polar patterns, which can expand the versatility of a mic greatly. The 2247LE isn't an exceptionally bright mic, but it isn't a 'flat' mic either. It has some air in the top, more than your Blue Bottle which is actually rolled off in the top. In cardioid the LE has a relatively strong proximity effect (low frequency boost), more than some mics (less than a U47, but more than the Mojave for instance), and less than others. IMO, the LE is definitely more versatile. Between the fact that it's a bit more neutral in frequency curve from lows to highs, and the fact that it has 9 polar patterns makes it a given that it is able to be used in more places. Mics that are a lot darker (like your Baby Bottle), or mics that are brighter will be a bit more application specific. __________________ Nathan Eldred Atlas Pro Audio- Boutique Gear, Consultation, Sales, & Distibution Home of the Atlas Juggernaut Preamp & 500 Series Revolver Rack USA Distributor for Buzz Audio, Exclusive Distributor for Atlas Pro Audio Gear and OSA Atlas Recording Studios, Inc. Recording/Mixing/Mastering Services

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30th October 2007, 03:39 AM	#3
peeder Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Working on my skills more =) Posts: 6,090	Totally different animals. I guess I'd lean Peluso for the voice but the MA-200 slays anything on acoustic instruments. However, the Mojave is far, far brighter, and if your Blue isn't bright enough for you maybe you do want the MA-200. I own an MA-200 but I don't have a Peluso, and if I was getting a Peluso, it'd be the 22 251.

30th October 2007, 05:34 AM	#4
Bad Khan Gear Head Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 70	Haven't tried the Peluso... yet... but I absolutely hated the Mojave... WAY bright and brittle in the top... Totally unnatural... reminded me of my old Rode NTK toob mic. Just my 2 cents.

30th October 2007, 06:05 AM	#5
peeder Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Working on my skills more =) Posts: 6,090	"brittle." Brittle. What does this mean, "brittle"? Brittle to me means fragile, as if there is breakup in the sound...it's not smooth in its output, it's irregular and spitty. No the Mojave MA-200 (properly functioning) is not "brittle." Bright, yes. Awesome transient response for a tube mic, yes. But smooth in what it does, not irregular. And certainly Rode has never produced a mic that touches it to my knowledge.

30th October 2007, 06:21 AM	#6
guitardom Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: new mexico Posts: 261	there is quite a price difference between these 2 mics. i have not used the peluso. i own the ma-200 and will say it can be a bright, and a bit sibilant on SOME singers. i do enjoy the mic though a lot!! what has made you decide between these 2 mics?? just curious

30th October 2007, 07:23 AM	#7
Exsanguis Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 202	I've tried both, and while I personally own neither, I'd strongly recommend the Peluso. It worked better on every source that it was tried on, and I'm most definitely going to be buying one of their mic's soon as a result.