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my HAMMER is going to be pulling some two buss duty for a bit ~ wow i love this thing!!!!!!!!!!
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i've got a Hammer and 5500 en route to me from Vintage King right now... testing them both out for 2-bus duty..... sadly, will have to send one back.....

but, happily, one stays!
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awesome let us know your thoughts!

sadly i have to send back gear i want to keep but sometimes that the way it goes:(~
my C.C. stays way to loaded my wife is great though she grumbles a bit we manage~
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I almost made the plunge for a Hammer after reading all the rave reviews. But I got a pretty good deal on a second-hand Massive Passive and I am very pleased. I love it. But I still wonder how I would have liked the Hammer though.
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I almost made the plunge for a Hammer after reading all the rave reviews. But I got a pretty good deal on a second-hand Massive Passive and I am very pleased. I love it. But I still wonder how I would have liked the Hammer though.
The massive is much more versatile/adjustable than the Hammer. If you got a good deal on the Massive, then you probably made the right decision. The Hammer is much more broad.
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i've got a Hammer and 5500 en route to me from Vintage King right now... testing them both out for 2-bus duty..... sadly, will have to send one back.....

but, happily, one stays!
so which one are you keeping???????
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so which one are you keeping???????
that's the $64,000 question now, isn't it! (well, $2300 question).... they arrive tomorrow... so i haven't laid my eyes, hands, or ears on either of them.

my music is not typical to these boards.. it's avant garde/ambient/experimental.. not rock or pop.. so i'm looking for something good for minimal and spacious music (in general)...

the Hammer, on paper/word of mouth, seems to fit the bill... but the API is in my budget and apparently a great piece as well..

i'll report back!
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Look people--there's a lot of people on this forum that have agendas, opinions, and likes/dislikes different from our own. So if a particular piece of gear intrigues you, then give it a shot in your own room and if you dig it then come here and tell us why you thought it was cool. If you didn't dig it then please come here and tell us why you didn't like it. The GS firing squad will probably shoot you down no matter what your opinion is, but there is always someone out there that will find intelligent and honest commentary useful. I know I always do.

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I listened to your test on the other thread and really appreciate people who post sound instead of just talking. Very helpful when new gear comes out.

I think more than anything, some people can be real stubborn around here. I certainly am sometimes. Sometimes they wont even actually read everything you wrote and completely miss your point---without reading what you actually said, they give a point for point rebuttal . haha.

It helps to realize that not everyone you help will post a reply so it may seem boos are louder than cheers. But I honestly believe that if we could hear the persons voice and tone, instead of reading it, we would find most people are not as combative as we think. For instance, Im from NY, and we have a certain "matter of fact" way of talking and joking, and it doesnt translate well to text.
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Thanks man! I appreciate the comment and kind words.

I'll continue doing my thing and sharing what I believe is helpful to others.

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It helps to realize that not everyone you help will post a reply so it may seem boos are louder than cheers.
sad but true :(~
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But I honestly believe that if we could hear the persons voice and tone, instead of reading it, we would find most people are not as combative as we think. For instance, Im from NY, and we have a certain "matter of fact" way of talking and joking, and it doesnt translate well to text.
this sometimes happens to me and i am sure is has happened to all of the post here or anywhere for that matter.


i try to stay positive, it makes me feel better at the end of the day ~
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sad but true :(~


this sometimes happens to me and i am sure is has happened to all of the post here or anywhere for that matter.


i try to stay positive, it makes me feel better at the end of the day ~
I wish I could all the time. But Just the other day someone reponded to a post of mine that didnt try to hurt anyone personally and the guy acted like I killed his family..saying how arrogant and childish I was being. So I called him a bitch about 15 times. hahaha. No restraint

I guess I could have used more tact in the first post, but as I said, text is tough sometimes because you cant always tell the actual tone the person is using. I got to work on that.
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What's great about the internet is you can pretty much ignore people that are negative or non-value added. It works for me. I usually don't respond to people that are just trying to cause trouble.

I wish more people here would use their real names and not hide behind anonymous screen names. Even the big names--I dont' really care how many platinum records someone has if they can't be cordial, respectful, and construct complete sentences to convey their thoughts. I really enjoyed it when Bruce Sweiden was a guest moderator and he wouldn't respond to anyone how posted using a screen name or didn't reveal their actual identity in their post. I wouldn't mind that being a rule for a Gearslutz acount. Would certainly make this a much more professional atmosphere. I know everytime I make a post I am conscience that my real name is being used and I wouldn't want to say anything that would reflect badly upon who I am as a human being or a studio owner.

Anyway...enough of my rant.

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even if some one was to use their real name you would still have to get to know them in order for their post to have any meaning, that is unless you just go goo goo for a name.
also i feel for some, particularly when some ****** wants to trash someone, and they are hiding for the purpose of being a assss, but come on, it is just not that hard to figure out what these guys are up to.
their are very good reasons as to why some one may choose to keep some degree of privacy in their life.
their are some that simply do not want attention drawn in their direction, maybe they want to be a nobody and the forum is the only place they can.
i have had people track me down, call my house, and i just am not willing to do that any more in my life.
i am a recluse, a hermit, and most of the people within a stones throw of me, do not and will not ever know me.
those that do know me, know me as pan, or pan60.
i am pan60, and it is not that difficult for someone to get to know me as pan60 ~
thats who i am!
just my thoughts, i can see both sides:(~
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I can respect the point of view. I just think it's weird. My point was that people would be more inclined to treat others more respectfully if their real reputations were on the line...not thier virtual ones.

Here's a place a client informed me of that people of might be interested in exploring if they are into the whole vitual identity thing:

Second Life: Your World. Your Imagination.

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the Hammer and API5500 have just been dropped off by the fedex guy (thanks Vintage King!!).... after they get to room temperature (it's 30 degrees outside).... i'll introduce them to my 2-bus

and start comparing/testing....
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T D, Please give as a good report and let us know which one you keep and why!! thanks!
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will do!

so far it's exciting enough just to touch REAL API knobs as well as the ultra-smooth knobs on the Hammer

maybe i don't even need to turn them on!

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It will be interesting to get your feedback.
Because of the way I have it setup, I can A/B between the AES out of my 192 and the analog sound of the Hammer.
I found the tubes in the Hammer added a "yummy" quality to the overall 2 mix.
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i've got a mix coming out of my computer into a HEDD.. and then daisy chained into the API and the Hammer...

i can completely bypass the API to A/B against the hammer...

my only concern:

are the Hammer tubes still coloring the sound even when the EQ is bypassed?
if so, the API will be getting colored by the Hammer...





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i would try one then reset and try the other?
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A/B'ing very quickly and randomly is the best way to compare them, i think.. at least for me.. to hear the immediate differences.

i just found out, however, that i can turn OFF the hammer and signal will still pass thru it.... so the API can now go through the hammer without tube happening...


so far, testing is fun i can honestly say i've found an EQ that i like more than the UAD Precision EQ, which is what i'm testing these against. at similar settings the UAD sounds a lot more narrow and plastic... the analog EQs are a bit more subtle and softer (the UAD was more in your face and louder, even when doing my best to match boosts and cuts)... but they are so much more natural sounding and retain all of space of my mix.



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so are you crying of joy? what is your opinion about these babies? Please tell us the differences and the strenght of each EQ.

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A/B'ing very quickly and randomly is the best way to compare them, i think.. at least for me.. to hear the immediate differences.

i just found out, however, that i can turn OFF the hammer and signal will still pass thru it.... so the API can now go through the hammer without tube happening...
Hi t d,
long time no see! How nice to see (or read) you again here at GS! Just tumbled over this Hammer thread, since i am also interested in and looking for an excellent 2buss EQ. Are you testing these two machines only with your style of music? or are you listening to all kinds of material? I am very interested in what you think about these, since I was also thinking about the API, but had just discovered the great reviews about the Hammer.

greetings from Berlin,
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hi ali,

greetings!! nice to see you again, it's been a long time..!

i will indeed be testing it on my style of music.. almost exclusively... although, i'm working on an EP for a german label now that is nearly techno.. so this afternoon i've been running the minimal techno through the EQs...

tonight, however, i'll give them the test with the regular stuff... sparse, beatless, avant garde (as you know)..

for those waiting with eagerness.... i had to get out of the house with the family a bit so i haven't had time to do too much testing, but i do hope to report tonight..

one thing i do like about the API for the 2-buss however, is the stepped controls and the single bypass switch (as opposed to channel-by-channel bypass of the Hammer (in the hammer's credit tho, it is a dual-mono eq)).. i'm finding the API a bit easier to work with when applying it to the 2-buss.



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Hi t d,
long time no see! How nice to see (or read) you again here at GS! Just tumbled over this Hammer thread, since i am also interested in and looking for an excellent 2buss EQ. Are you testing these two machines only with your style of music? or are you listening to all kinds of material? I am very interested in what you think about these, since I was also thinking about the API, but had just discovered the great reviews about the Hammer.

greetings from Berlin,
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hope you get a chance to post before and after uncompressed samples for us!
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i'm a little nervous about posting samples because people so often rip apart the process behind the samples.. they always find some flaw in creating perfectly equal recording scenarios... and claim the tests are flawed and inaccurate....

if i do have time to make some, i will.. but no guarantees...

i would like to see what other's think....



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i'm a little nervous about posting samples because people so often rip apart the process behind the samples.. they always find some flaw in creating perfectly equal recording scenarios... and claim the tests are flawed and inaccurate....

if i do have time to make some, i will.. but no guarantees...

i would like to see what other's think....
IMO, comparing 2 "great" units is a very personal thing. What's good for one person, may not necessarily be good for another. It's so subjective. I tried a few stereo EQ's and ended up with the HAMMER. Why, cause it works for me and it sounds incredible on the 2 buss, with my music, in my room, etc...
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At least give your comment about the SOUND......basicly you just said you just got them!

We are here waiting for at least a good report!thumbsup
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