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Old 19th October 2007, 06:26 AM   #1
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the ultimate vs. thread

which is better ?.......

i have my personal favorites, and some mp3 samples of each comparison.....but will only reveal them at the end of this thread.


itb or a console ?


neve or api ?


digital or analog ?


tube or class A ?


12khz or 50hz ?


red guitars or green guitars ?


snares or toms ?


compression or limiting ?


in phase or out of phase ?


hi hat mics or no hi hat mics ?


transformers or no transformers ?


toft or oram ?


neumann or oktava ?


120bpm or 64bpm ?


44.1k or 192k


outboard or plugins ?


mac or pc ?


on or off ?




MUSIC.....or GEAR ?






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Old 19th October 2007, 06:55 AM   #2
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Old 19th October 2007, 12:49 PM   #3
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Has anyone did a side-by-side comparison of the ITB/OTB- vs Mac/PC-threads yet? Which one do you think reads better?

IMO they're both 'Epic'...



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Old 19th October 2007, 04:08 PM   #4
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IMO they're both 'Epic'...
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Hang on, I'm confused. I though the mic made it sound epic, not the computer.
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Old 19th October 2007, 06:32 PM   #5
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you guys are wrong.

clearly this thread is better than any others. though i do feel the itb vs. console threads are usually a bit more crispy than the mac/pc threads.

look...here is my empirical reasoning about why THIS thread is still the best...

i used a u87 with a custom mod into a chandler germanium AND a NEVE 1073 into a dw fearn eq with a bit of la-2 (not the reissue !!) into a mytek converter. oh..and not to protools..that sucks. i used NUENDO...or was it cakewalk...i don't know..but it was the f!@#$ best i can tell you than. i did shoot out after shoot out before i committed to this thread. IMHO...this is the best thread. period.

after monitoring closely...its so obvious that this thread has more depth, is punchier, gets a better stereo image, and tastes alot better as well. additionally i found that it translated well to almost every other sytem i read the thread on. there is simply a more TRUE nature to this thread than any other. now, i am all for vibe, and warmth, and all that stuff...but this thread is just accurate....really...like you are in the room.



oh, this is a monkey p!@#@ on a peace sign next to a hipster who wanted me to add more tape delay like john lennon to his crappy vocal track last night..and the way i felt about it all.



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(i only put these guys here...because while i am typing this...it looks like "hoopie"
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Old 19th October 2007, 07:13 PM   #6
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Nothing is ever really better, it's all subjective, different for each person. These things you've listed all have their own sonic signatures, quirks etc. None is better, they all have a specific sound.

I think people go gahgah over the gear and the name drop factor and forget what they're even doing in the first place. I've made great albums using shit.

(maybe I missed the point of this thread lol...)
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Nothing is ever really better, it's all subjective, different for each person. These things you've listed all have their own sonic signatures, quirks etc. None is better, they all have a specific sound.

I think people go gahgah over the gear and the name drop factor and forget what they're even doing in the first place. I've made great albums using shit.

(maybe I missed the point of this thread lol...)



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12khz or 50hz ?
Gawd... What a stupid question. The obvious answer is 50Hz. I boost all my mixes by a good 15dB to give it that warmth.

Who needs 12khz anyway? 12khz mixes always sound so wimpy. That's why I roll off everything north of 4k. Makes sure non of that 12 sh*t gets in there by accident.

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oh, this is a monkey p!@#@ on a peace sign next to a hipster who wanted me to add more tape delay like john lennon to his crappy vocal track last night..and the way i felt about it all.



Damn hippies.
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120bpm or 64bpm ?



Obviously you are young and don't remember disco or you'd never ask.
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Gawd... What a stupid question. The obvious answer is 50Hz. I boost all my mixes by a good 15dB to give it that warmth.

Who needs 12khz anyway? 12khz mixes always sound so wimpy. That's why I roll off everything north of 4k. Makes sure non of that 12 sh*t gets in there by accident.

right !!! 50hz is CLEARLY better !!! 12khz is for dogs only.

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Damn hippies.
right....

btw..in my experience, hippies definitely sound better when hi and lo passed at exactly 110hz.

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