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| One with big hooves | Has anyone made the move from owning a studio to being a freelance audio engineer? Toss it at me...
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| Having a bad week, Jay? Seriously, I know a number of freelancers (perhaps most, these days) who also have studios, either at home or in a commercial space. A whole bunch of projects have to bounce from a commercial studio into one that's cheaper. if you don't want to run your place as a commercial room anymore, you micht think about either renting the place out to another engineer, or simply keeping available or whatever work you can't take into a more expensive place. If I'm on the wrong track here, I apologize - you're not giving us a lot of info...
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| Not sure if it was the actual question either, but being freelance without owning a room can be a problem. Has been for me at times.
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| One with big hooves | I'd keep some kind of mix/overdub room together. The general idea is to cut myself loose from real estate and bigger overhead.
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| I'm a bit confused (not unusual for me ) as to what you mean by "freelance"... Are you on staff at a studio other than your own? If the answer to this is no then you're already a freelance engineer... regardless of overhead.
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| Lives for gear | If you're currently running a sound motel and thinking about bagging it, I would say go for it. On the other hand, it's essential to me as a freelancer to have my own place to work. It's the only way to make any money off the budgets we're all seeing these days. Not selling studio time free's me from having to pay leases on gear I don't need. I only have gear that I need, and own it outright. My personal studio is on my own property, so no extra rent to pay (just the mortgage). When the budget is there, I'm happy to work in a cush' studio and float some money their way, and usually do (big tracking days). Are you having trouble paying the nut? |
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| Hey Jay... we've discussed this before... but here's my $0.02 for the general public... Keep your home thing, but lose some of the extras to cut costs. Like we talked about, maybe lose the 2" and Trident... decide what mics and outboard are necessary for your sound, and start advertising YOU rather than the studio. As a freelancer, your selling point should be the CDs and not the gear you have. All it takes is one lucky band to keep your phone ringing... I have the entire summer booked pretty solid due to Paulson's recent indie success, and these are bands who are booking time and sending deposits without even seeing my place. As you know, i've got a pretty bare-bones setup compared to most others, but i've been able to make bands happy with what I have, and I won't take on a project until I hear the music, survey the band in terms of ability, talent, and sound, and feel I can guarantee they will be 100% satisified. That's more important to me than charging by the hour... if a band can't afford to pay me a flat rate that I feel comfortable with for a 2-3 week EP project, then I turn them down, rather than trying to create something in less time than is needed for said band. It's a different way of thinking, but it's been working for me, and you're in the same boat in terms of overhead. You'll lose the clients that want 3 or 4 days at $X/hour, but how many of those projects come out to your satisifaction? Odds are most are rushed and creativity is compromised. I'd prefer happy clients with products that I'm proud of, even if I spent a little more time on it or didn't make as much as I would have if charging by the hour. Until you're attracting label work, it's a sacrifice, but you gotta get there somehow. |
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| Jay, Seems to me that you have a cool set-up,I think if you can keep it going by all means do. You have a place that you can call your own and you make the rules. In a way,like Tim said you are already a freelancer, being a true freelancer can be a real pain,especially when it comes to booking time and getting thre rate you require. That alone can put a damper on things. ![]() |
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| Lives for gear | If you're having trouble making lease payments on gear and feel like a slave, just scale it back and keep only what YOU need. I know several people with SSL rooms who are having trouble making the lease payments and are thinking of getting a smaller/cheaper console. They're not attracting the clientel they thought they would, and their clients don't seem to place value in that console. They're mostly doing B market ProTools sessions. |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lowlands
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| I was wondering how important you think it is for a freelance engineer to also be able to wear a producer's hat? |
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| Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chicago
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I'm not saying you have to be a creative producer, but being able to suggest alternate instrumentation/parts or adding a missing part (such as a pad) is simple enough. Also, knowing how to tech drums and set up stringed instruments, along with knowing how to arrange multiple part vocal harmony will make a big difference in both sound quality and getting repeat customers. If you can keep your production guidance more to the technical end of things, you should be okay. It is important to know how to venture into the creative realm, but even more important to know when to. And watch out for the left brain - right brain conflict. A track may have a great vibe that pleases a producer-hat, but the outside noise and crapping out mic would offend the engineer-hat. But, you can learn with practice to deal with the creative vs. technical struggle. Just remember you are an engineer that dabbles in production, and not the other way around. And never say "Hmmmm." It makes others think your brain is powering down. | |
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e.Knowing Jay, he's enough of a musician to be able to handle this kinda stuff in an environment with no producer or the band producing. I still think the biggest difference between going freelance and what Jay is doing now is the selling point... as a freelancer, it's your name and the CDs you've done, not the studio or gear. HUGE difference. | |
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grudge JP, the last point is a good one...
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