general principles for using delays with reverbs in mix, plz....!?

[fuzzface777]

Up until now, I have used reverbs pn my gtr tracks( predelay, wetness, experiment with lengths) the way Ted Templeton ( spelling?) hard panned verb to other side and mixed verbs with Van Halen - -but probably less reverb e.

I have also just kept reverbs on gtr, hard panned R and L and mix wetness -pretty simple.

Vox's reverb, usually hall, hard panned R and L, wetness added to taste.
Bass dry.
Drums, usually OH's room for reverb.

Any midi synths had their only verb/delays so I never messed with that too much.

Any other suggestions to start appling reverb to my main tracks for more depth?


Second: Delay.

I have used delay on gtr for effect and doubling in my guitar signal chain, playing live for years. Sometimes, I track with the RE-201 delay, very subtle, 10% quarter, one repeat, like EVH did to great success. ( Barely noticable).
Of course, delay on gtr can be used as an effect for fun sounds, too.

How can I use delay, tastefully, or almost indiscernibly to help make the song denser, bigger than life, fuller etc....?

For example: vox, background vox, bass -it at all, drums-if possible, rhy gtrs

most music mixed for Rock-all types, alternative, industrial,

[fuzzface777]

anyone???

[fuzzface777]

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I think reverb and delay in song is very important-though I can't use them like a pro, it would be nice to hear others experiences or opinion, maybe even a pro if this thread isn't too revealling for the "black art".....

[vernier]

Less is more I guess. As for hard left/right ..the outputs of your digital reverb are meant for that already. Reverb and delay type and amount is different for each song, so its whatever you like. I like a little on vocal, tape delay to live chamber or EMT 140, but for guitars and drums, just natural room ambience and nothing else usually. As for Van Halen, I don't have their albums but do remember the day Teddy Templeton called me down to Warners to hear a test pressing of the their first album. I didn't like it ..dissonant guitar notes, jazzy shuffle beats, and told Teddy they'd bomb.

[Sigma]

Originally Posted by fuzzface777

Up until now, I have used reverbs pn my gtr tracks( predelay, wetness, experiment with lengths) the way Ted Templeton ( spelling?) hard panned verb to other side and mixed verbs with Van Halen - -but probably less reverb e.

I have also just kept reverbs on gtr, hard panned R and L and mix wetness -pretty simple.

Vox's reverb, usually hall, hard panned R and L, wetness added to taste.

try plates , chamber,small rm etc depending on song--intimate smaller --majestic --bigger
and on the bigger plates try pre delay on plate from 60-144 ms to keep intelligibility and for effect.. blend with lower volume no delay plate and maybe a 1/8 note or dotted 1/4 delay

Bass dry.

Drums, usually OH's room for reverb.
ovhds and verb are a general no-no

Any midi synths had their only verb/delays so I never messed with that too much.

synth verb is cheesy ..can it and use your rverb and rm devices

Any other suggestions to start appling reverb to my main tracks for more depth?


Second: Delay.

I have used delay on gtr for effect and doubling in my guitar signal chain, playing live for years. Sometimes, I track with the RE-201 delay, very subtle, 10% quarter, one repeat, like EVH did to great success. ( Barely noticable).
Of course, delay on gtr can be used as an effect for fun sounds, too.

How can I use delay, tastefully, or almost indiscernibly to help make the song denser, bigger than life, fuller etc....?

For example: vox, background vox, bass -it at all, drums-if possible, rhy gtrs

most music mixed for Rock-all types, alternative, industrial,

delay on vox from a slap 40-60 ms to a repeat 250 ms and up

side stick with pre delay on a plate are nice for the retro ballad sound

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[fuzzface777]

everybody just uses the room for reverb/ambience? No uses delay /reverb effects in mixing?