Electronic drums...

[Tunes 666]

Hi

does anyone know a good electronic kit in a decent price range... what kind of things do you need to look out for with this?.. or is it a case of some simply do not work properly and some do?

thanks for reading..

[jchas]

I've been using a Roland TD7 to trigger my Kurzweil sounds and have been pretty happy with the results. A used TD7 set can be found for $600 and a used Kurzweil PC2r for about the same.
The biggest differences by price are:
Rubber pads vs. woven heads (woven heads play more naturally and are quieter).
Number of triggers per pad (from 1-3, brain must be compatible - TD7 accepts 2)
Number of trigger inputs
Pad sensitivity adjustment
Sounds.

While the sounds are typically the biggest factor, they can be upgraded easilly by using another tone module/keyboard (i've got a couple Kurzweils at my disposal) or with a sample library which get better all the time and cost less.
If you're looking to bang the notes in yourself - rubber pads work fine. If a drummer is going to play them he'll probably insist on woven heads (if he'll play an electric set at all.
And you don't need to use all the components. I've added real cymbals and snare to my set and it makes a big difference.

[Tunes 666]

Originally Posted by jchas

I've been using a Roland TD7 to trigger my Kurzweil sounds and have been pretty happy with the results. A used TD7 set can be found for $600 and a used Kurzweil PC2r for about the same.
The biggest differences by price are:
Rubber pads vs. woven heads (woven heads play more naturally and are quieter).
Number of triggers per pad (from 1-3, brain must be compatible - TD7 accepts 2)
Number of trigger inputs
Pad sensitivity adjustment
Sounds.

While the sounds are typically the biggest factor, they can be upgraded easilly by using another tone module/keyboard (i've got a couple Kurzweils at my disposal) or with a sample library which get better all the time and cost less.
If you're looking to bang the notes in yourself - rubber pads work fine. If a drummer is going to play them he'll probably insist on woven heads (if he'll play an electric set at all.
And you don't need to use all the components. I've added real cymbals and snare to my set and it makes a big difference.

thanks for the reply...

Well I have BFD and I love the sounds in that, so i wanted to hook a kit up to it.... you can get some pretty well priced ones but I dont want to get it and then find out why they are a bit cheeper...

I want it for my self to create beats for my songs. but also so a drummer can come in and tart it up for me using the midi kit...

[Tunes 666]

I think this looks good for the price...

http://www.dv247.com/invt/43526/

[jamwerks]

Originally Posted by jchas

I've added real cymbals and snare to my set and it makes a big difference.

Don't means to take over the tread but.......

I've been wondering about the feasability of using a hybrid setup: Roland V-drums for snare, toms, bass and cymbales, (through BFD) and a real HH miced. Is that something that a drummer could give great performances on without latency-monitoring issues?

Or for stuff where there's extensive ride work, maybe even live cymbales with stereo overheads.

I'm thinking that the sample route is even better for great drums but am not happy with non live HH's........

[jchas]

The latency can very depending on your setup and MIDI equipment and trigger convertors. There will always be a few-MS delay between hitting the pad and hearing the sound,but it can get unmanagable if you have other MIDI devices in the chain or have a slow convertor on the computer. I don't record the drums audio, just the MIDI data, and can't really notice any latency. But when I used to put triggers on the acoustic drums and layer MIDI sounds with them you could see almost 8-ms delay. It was pretty easy to slide the MIDI track back in time to line them up. That was an Alesis D4 brain which was quite a bit slower than the Roland.