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Old 24th September 2007   #1
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Metric Halo ULN-2 vs Apogee duet for guitar reamping

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Lately I have been recording drums on my G5 powermac using Addictive drums/ Logic Pro and now its time to record some guitar. I am the owner of TC Konnekt 24, but I am selling it due to the horrible drivers and the lack of decent support.
I will record guitar tracks through line in, and then reamp the line signal with 2 mics. I will therefore, as I understand it, need at least three outputs, 1 for routing the recorded line signal to a guitar amp, and two for monitoring.
This is my debut post on this forum, but have been watching and reading up for a while, about Apogee & Metric Halo. Apogee Duet provides with me three outputs, though one of them is a headphone output without its own DAC, I will have to hook it up, as described on the Apogge site FAQ:

(Apogee Electronics: Products: Duet here

..using aggregate devices. A bit tricky for a newbie like me and I will have to us the low quality DAC (compared to the Apoggee) on my G5 but it looks dueable and is the cheapest option compared to Metric Halo . The Metric Halo, should suit my needs in this regard without problems but is more expensive.
Because of my lack of technical experience I would really love some input on this matter, is there something i have misunderstood?

How about the the Apogee Mic preamps, converters and overall sound quality, is it better compared to the Metric Halo?

Hope someone can help, thanx....
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I have been looking for a reponse on this as well.

I almost had a ULN-2 on order but there was a $25 price dispute with atlas pro, and I tripped across a DUET ad. My thinking is just go with the Duet if 2 channels will suit you. I rarely hear a bad thing about Metric and Apogee. They both have their own Cult following.

I guess great sound as well, but it would take someone who has both of them to really answer this question.......
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Since the Duet is new, I doubt you'll find anyone who has both a Duet and a ULN2.

Personally, having looked at the Duet specs, I think the ULN2 has much better i/o options and routing. It is a full mixer -- there's an 80bit Sharc DSP chip in the Metric Halo units that does nothing but route signals inside the box.

The Duet is probably great for some things. It certainly looks super portable, although you have to deal with breakout cables. As long as you want to continue using Logic, this could be just the ticket. I use Logic, but as soon as Reaper is released for the Mac, I'll dump Logic like leftover fish.

Is the ULN2 worth twice the price? Only you can answer that. However, before trying to get someone to chime in on the quality of the two products (which is unlikely to happen), perhaps, you should decide which unit has the functionality that you currently need, and will need for the next five years or so.

BTW, I own a ULN2, as well as two 2882s, so don't think I'm not biased

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you COULD monitor in mono while you reamped with the Duet... assuming that you can assign the mix to 1 side and the solo'd guitar DI to the other side & out to the reamp > amp.
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Thanx for the replies, I will take them in to consideration..I think I will go with vthe Metric Halo.... Oh by the way, anyone know if the Metric Halos are stackable, say, can I connect the 2882 with the UL-N through firewire?
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Yes, you can daisy-chain them together -- Each MIO has two firewire ports.

I think there is a limit of four boxes, though; I'm not really sure about that. Right now, I have 1x ULN2 and 2x 2882, stacked.
[edit]: I think this limitation is a Mac thing, and not a MIO thing.

I'm pretty sure you can't power more than one MIO via Firewire.
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Metric Halo ULN-2 vs Apogee duet for guitar reamping

You may not be able to daisy chain three halo's because of only having phantom power for one, but halo's have power supply's so i would have thought that you could as long as only one is taking phantom power from the mac, i've got my halo 2882 chaining through my external hard drive at the minute, because of only having one firewire connection on my macbook, i'm using the power supply. If you ever have to record in a mobile situation without power it usually, i would argue, be a situation that only requires one halo. I hope this helps.
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